8th Old God {Lore/Theory – Spoilers All}

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Welcome, welcome! Did you read something online about the 8th Old God? Or like random theories that come from almost no where? Maybe you just were searching James Randi and then this popped up? Then come and listen to what is known~

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38 thoughts on “8th Old God {Lore/Theory – Spoilers All}”

  2. What if the 8th embodied an idea that the ancient Tevinters had rejected over time, perhaps the god of liberty? And if the old theory of the old gods and elf gods being linked has any merit, could it be the one associated with Solas?

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  4. I just want to say there is some form of evidence of an '8th Tevinter Magister/Priest. Found in the dissodant Chant of Light in the canticle of silence written by archon Hessarian in -160 ancient. It details a doubtful acolyte that speaks out and then flees to warn the archon of the magisters plan. However it was too late and by the time the magisters returned/were cast out by the Maker/Old Gods/Elven Gods they became Darkspawn.

    Someone speaks out against the plan:
    As he looked upon the waiting sacrifices,
    One acolyte felt the first prickling pangs
    Of dread. And he turned to his fellow priests,
    Saying: "Should glory come at such a price?
    What reward can be worth this? If mortals
    Were meant to stand among the gods,
    Would the gods not open their gates to us?
    Rather than demand we build a tower,
    Blood, bone, and metal, to the heavens?"

    The ritual begins:
    But the gathered acolytes turned from him,
    For there was nothing but ambition
    Where hearts once beat within them.
    And ninety-nine knives gleamed in the firelight
    As the sacrifices began.

    The doubting acolyte flees:
    The one who had spoken
    Into shadow crept and made himself away.
    North, to the road, Minrathous bound.
    Fear grasping at his every breath
    That none might stop his brethren
    Save the Archon himself.

    I know they may just be a priest or servant in one of the 7 old gods temples but this could stand to justify that was an 8th Old God. Perhaps one unlike the others, if the Old Gods do have a connection between the Elven Gods could we be seeing Solas who we know is a Dreamer Mage or Mythal who can shapeshift into a dragon and in Dragon Age Inquisition walk the fade physically try and warn the magisters of this plan? That the old gods are just the Elven Pantheon hoping to escape by using their bodies as vessels?

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  11. So I have a question idk if it warrants a video but I’m curious. Is there any proof that the maker is real? So the black city is actually an old Elven city right? And the chantry says the taint was created by the maker right? But we know the taint is much older than the chantry says so my question is, is there any proof that the maker actually exists? (I’m not super caught up with lore so I might be wrong about some stuff and maybe there is real evidence I don’t know about)

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  12. I still believe that all the Old Gods are actually The Old Godesses because each Old God Dragon possesses a fragment of Mythal’s soul. Wynne the mage companion from Dragon Age Origins was my first clue, because she is kept alive by a spirit. . Second was when Flemeth could be in two places at once and have separate memories. Third, the line from Flemeth, “…a wisp of an ancient being.” Fourth, when Flemeth has Morrigan retrieve/preserve the soul of Urthemiel. Flemeth does this to prevent another piece of Mythal’s soul from being destroyed. “A soul is not forced on the unwilling, Morrigan. You were never in any danger from me.”

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  14. Jeez… The amount of work you put into this is REALLY appreciated!
    So much of the DA lore is based on eights, or multiples of eight, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was an eighth Old God. Who knows, it may fall into the Solas lore of part of the Forgotten Ones.

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  15. i think the thing about this is that if Bioware has any kind of world building quality control, they aren’t just going to bring it up for no reason at all, that’s just messy writing, so hopefully they have it amount to something if not a full old god

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  17. A shout out to James Randi in my Dragon Age corner of the internet felt like the planets starting to align for when all my interests finally combine into one super interest that finally breaks my brain and I am thrilled

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  25. I mean… There ARE 8 Magisters shown in both "Invasion" and "The Fall" mosaics. It's hard to see without a mod, but if you pull the actual art of the files out and look close, it's there. Obviously not conclusive, but a very interesting addition to the theory.

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  26. Thanks for putting out new-ish DA stuff. I want the next game so bad…
    Can you and jordan do another theory podcast? I'd love to hear more of those.

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  27. I mean, my pet demand/theory is that in DA4 you'll be able to free Razikale and Lusacan but will be facing the 8th for the 6th Blight. I'm fully convinced Moon-head is Razikale.

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  28. "a more serpentine"

    Mythal "took on the form of a serpent" in battle with Anduril….

    7 Evanuris discounting Mythal "the serpent" and Solas, who was only loosely associated and would have no reason to whisper to Tevinters while he was taking his goddly power-nap after making the Veil.

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  32. what about 'The streets of Minrathous' though? The crazy cultists needed 8 seals to perform a ritual that was supposed to summon some kind of demon that was sealed beneath Minrathous and was described as something that eventually 'only a god could summon'. And each seal had a long four-winged dragon 'rising from a dark sea' on it. Maybe I misunderstood something or I'd spent too much time wearing my tinfoil hat but to me it seemed like a hint that the 8th Old God really exists and it's a sea monster/demon/whatever Ghilan'nain had created and refused to destroy after Solas 'stopped her hand'.

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  34. Think one of those two could be the tentacled monster living under Tevinter? I so hope we go back to the scary, dark dragon age with the creepy monsters. It could of just been me but the Inqi just seemed to have a happy go lucky time of doing things. I didn't play DA2 a second time but other than a few moments of angsts or comedy if felt like one long fetch quest. Mass Effect did a better job of keeping the pc feeling like they actually had pressure on them. But Awakenings actually made me gag at times because not only was it dark but you were so into being in the world and understanding it's horrors.

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  37. I cannot express how disappointing the fact of archdemons being dragons instead of those. But if that's a state of true old god as a retcon would be acceptable for its a stellar design

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  38. so ive been combing through a lot of the codex and your videos and ummmm can i ask a possibly bad/dumb question? is there any reason ghilanain couldnt have been the first qunari? we're told that shes literally a halla but what if its like the dragons where its just symbolic? what if she just looks like a halla but thats only because the words for qunari and kossith didnt exist before her since shes the first? corypheus calls qunari a mistake of blood, what if thats a reference to how ghilanains transformation happened? i cant find any evidence that precludes this line of reasoning but maybe others can

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