Today we’re gonna be discussing Reset Mechanics in League of Legends, and why I believe they’re a huge reason for champions being incredibly broken these days.
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The only defense I am going to put is if resets was harder or remove the champions pick rate would drop by a large amount meaning probably only the mains of those champion would still play them.
So basically you have a problem with every single champ in league. Okay lets delete all champions and play minions vs minions.
the most toxic reset mechanics have no mana or energy cost, I think that's what makes it obnoxious to deal with.
Pyke's R should really never reset if teammate ks him.
Now ahri r and passive reset on kills.
I swear they try to give everyone reset, even old champions at this point.
I like how Olaf's Q is designed because it gives some depth to someone who otherwise would be a pretty braindead character. Since he can control he can either decide to throw it closer to quickly pick it up and cast it again or throw it further for more range but then picking it up can potentially be more risky.
Not only that but it also makes it so that his Q is much more effective when used offensively when chasing someone down than if used defensively to slow down his pursuers.
All this makes so that he has to think about how he wants to use the ability and can just mindlessly spam it if he wants to get most value out of it
Doesn't Zeri also have a reset on her e?
Each time she damages a champion, the cooldown gets lowered.
Did this video get made before she was revealed?
Irelia doesn't really belong with the rest of these champs. Her reset relies on A. landing her e or ult, or B. her q killing the target (timing is a little bit more generous, but the idea is mostly the same).
Yi's alphastrike should come with a narrow straight line fast-moving skillshot, a point and click is just bs.
some champions like Irelia and Viego just feel unfair to play against. It's horrible to know that i cant play with the champion i like, and instead have to pick a 200 years to go against their 200 years, all that to have a FAIR chance of winning.
Riot should release a champion that punishes resets
You know what I love about this video, how you are mentioning Katarina again and again but then you list 5 champs and her and you have nothing to say for her. Cus guess what, for her to get her “broken resets” yeah she stays in the teamfights longer, but she has to be in the middle of everyone to deal her dmg, idk why are you even mentioning her when you yourself have nothing to say about her lol XD
In my opinion Reset does seem unfair but if champions like Darius don’t have a reset-able Ultimate then he becomes … weak.
I'm genuinely subscribed to hear ur horrible takes. I've never disagreed with a yter more, I hate bring up rank but there's no way ur even plat.
Most of the critiques you make are valid but I feel like you pointed at the wrong champions to use as examples. I.e. Irelia's entire kit revolves around her q reset mechanic so, just like you said, it's balanced by that, given that without it she deals no damage and wouldn't even be a slayer in the first place. Same applies to Katarina and Pyke. Samira gets to keep her reset because, unlike other adcs, her playstyle puts her on par risk as assassins (high burst damage, big Cooldown window if she misplays or gets outplayed) so her "e" reset is there to reward players for taking those risks (if she didn't have that, her playstyle would probably be a lot different and honestly monotonous, which doesn't synergyze well with her overall theme). I agree tho with Viego and Master Yi, as they truly do not need those resets to do whatever they are supposed to. Hope you see this
Vars to be fair samira reset takes more skill then other reset abilities looking at she is marksmen cause she cant use that ability to escape she can only go in and if she doesnt get reset she dies if she gets it she needs to aim it to escape or go even deeper into the enemy team unlike irelia who is tanky doesnt get oneshot if she fails going in
I feel like some resets are ok, but lots of them are unnecessary. I really thing they need to tone them back a bit
Him saying samira makes me want to not live
I feel like the worst reset mechanic right now is Viego. If he kills somebody, he gets healing, intangibility, movespeed, 3 more abilities, another cast of ult, his cooldowns reset, your wife, your credit card info, fries and a drink. The reason I don’t like it is the difference it makes. If Viego doesn’t kill with his initial ambush and burst, he’s a cannon minion, and if he does, he’s a god.
imma say this with darius his ult is kinda buggy i been able to get the reset if my ult doesnt kill them and they die like if it leaves them a sliver of hp left i got the reset when they died without actually killing them with the R i dont see it all the time but i see it enough to where i can document how it happens
10:30 While this definitely makes a lot of sense, I believe Samira’s E dash isn’t an all purpose get out of jail free card, because you have to target an enemy, usually this sends you farther into the fight, unless there are enemy minions or you’re already in the center (which if you haven’t killed everything by then you’re probably going to die)
Vars have you ever considered taking a look at Heroes of the storm? It's similar to league but i considerate more unbalanced than league of legends.
If you reply I'd like to give you an example of an ability that think is completely busted in that game
Day 69420, and we are still waiting for aatrox to have a little revamp, not to much just please, make him the the world ender he is, not the easily bursted by women and zed
I think they should remove healing from irelias q. it's a heal that resets and helps her farm better but also it dashes her and she also can cast abilities during it. like why does it have a damage bonus vs minions? rito decided irelia isn't broken enough so they took it upon themselves to literally play irelia for you. master Yi r reset is dumb but honestly who cares he's not that strong and even if he is building zhonya outplays his entire existence. pyke? dumb. pyke is the special kid so he gets to have double kill gold. that resets on kill. on an ability that's designed to execute so he can potentially get 10 kills worth of gold in a teamfight. just random bs tbh you could add this mechanic to any champ with an execute and it's not unique or interesting it's just dumb and overpowered. I don't see any reason why pyke alone should get this. Katarina, dumb for obvious reasons. most of the time she doesn't even need to use more than q+ult tho so whatever. viego is dumb but honestly he's manageable. he does have counterplay and his transformation often does more harm to him than good. because if he's ahead he can only get a weaker soul and if he's behind he's not gonna be able to score a takedown easily, theoretically at least. and his r reset is an execute for the most part so it only does ridiculous dmg if his opponent is at low hp which means he has to use the soul's abilities which opens up a window of potential vulnerability (especially if he turned into an adc) so the reset isn't that frustrating. I'm not biased towards viego I think he's ultra mega stupid lol I'm just saying I think he's way more manageable as opposed to say Katarina or qiyana which is btw stupid, remove grass w, remove w bonus dmg, remove reset q and auto target with e, remove ult stun or knockup can't have both. nerf her to the ground I don't wanna see her ever again lmao.
Hey can you talk about the new items and too much dmg in league?
Wait, what about Zilean? One of the only champions with an on-command reset mechanic?
In my view, conditional partial resets that reward specific actions are better, like Fiora's Q or Gwen's E, those skills are supposed to be combat dashes, their cooldown gets reduced if you fight, you can use them the "wrong way" to escape but you have to deal with a longer cooldown, a trade off.
I think pyke's is fine since he's useless after his q n e are down since he is too squishy to just walk up and aa someone to death without hail of blades especially since he cant gain bonus hp, at the end of the day his job is to make sure the priority target dies faster since the threshold isnt percentage based he can go after bruisers and tanks
Technically Katarina does not have ability cool-downs reset. When she scored a takedown all her abilities cooldowns get reduced by 10 or 15 seconds (can’t remember which one). Early to mid game this can only completely reset either Q or E (depends on what you max out first) her ult still has a 60 sec cool-down. But the problem is if she gets multi-kills. Then she unlocks the power of having all her abilities
I do agree that some reset mechanics is broken and should have some sort of restrictions on them (i.e. every Yasuo and Irelia mains out there), but I feel some are justifiable. Samira's dash reset is justifiable because she has mechanics that meant to be like a skirmisher/fighter. If you were to compare Samira and Yasuo, she's way more tame than Yasuo that has more and shorter dashes, a longer lasting wind wall, and a form of CC. Plus, she needs more crit items to be viable.
Irelia had skirmisher as her tft trait lol
I think pyke's is pretty okay in theory, so long as they balance him so that he needs the extra gold to win games, and have his other abilities be less influential. That way he plays like a hook support, and not an assassin. Then in fights, his job would be to execute low health characters, maybe land some CC, but not be a big damage dealer. The tradeoff for the execute reset, and gold, being the limited usefulness in fights.
it true
I feel like the Irelia's stuff was kinda wrong. That's true taht irelia only need winions to get Qreset but that's true for the laning phase. Once it's finished, in general you'll land max 2 Q to an ennemy (R-Q-touch E-Q). If irelia use her last Q on the ennemy and don't die she won't get the reset wich is kinda risky (as Darius), you'll better wait to kill by AA. That feeling is heavier when you are in a teamfight. You R-flash and Q max 2 guys then you try to land your E on the mains carries (one is already nice) and rush it. That's not like the ennemy team was waiting for you to do so, you can't just Q and then get a reset. (not good in english but i think you understand the general idea)
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Ahri same like with Vex reset mechanic on R. That's why she have now 18 % pickrate now (after rework)
10:33 I think that's exagerating, Samira can only dash to enemies now and if the said Vi is flanking in the backline her and Samira gets an E reset, the only person she can dash to is still VI, meaning she still gets closer to Vi, nothing so bad like a master Yi Q reset.
Same for vex, she can only 1 shot a target with full combo (nothing never seen before as Veigar can 1 shot a squishy target with just Q and W, let alone his ult) but for vex if she gets a reset, what can she do with it? only her ult resets, her W still has like 15s cooldowns and Q has like 5, meaning you either ult again on low hp targets, or u wait for ur team to peel for u, vex isn t nearly close to viego 1v5 pentakill
One reset mechanic I hate the most is Cass's Es.
Like sure, she can ONLY reset it when the enemy is affected by poison (her own, Singed's, Teemo,'s etc..) BUT the fact that she can hard CC with her ult and lay "grounded" poison trail onto the enemy's feet, make her resets in certain situations, pretty much 100-0 "skirmishes".
And not to mention that her Twin Fangs actually heal her (scales with 20% AP) and the runes she's going with is Conqueror + Triumph/Overheal and Taste of Blood + Relentless Hunter. And items like Riftmaker and Seraph's Embrace additionally give more healing so her E spam, coupled with near immobilization of her target (even if it can retaliate but not move), she significantly mitigates their damage by healing at face value of how fast she Es and how hard it hits.
Here's the thing.
I don't think solely her E reset is the issue. It's how much healing is in the system that enables Cass to be this overbearing and the reset mechanic to look like the culprit. She isn't the only champion that became super aggressive/freaking annoying at how greedy they can play and get away with with a mad bank to show for it.
I feel the exact same way about Samira and her same bullshit pattern of superhealing options:
Conqueror + Triumph, Shieldbow + Taste of Blood + Relentless Hunter. This is all that it's enough for her to hit her "power spike" and play as aggressive as she wants because once she goes in, all she needs is one kill so that her resets start going down and her pretty much healing of every damage she inflicts.
This then leads to more money, then Bloodthirster, Death's Dance, Collector and then you have a champion that can take down your entire team with 5 players virtually having no option of getting the upper hand unless they fuck her up on a surprise.
Viego is one more asshole of a champion that has access to a lot of healing, untargetability (from kills) and then just repeats the same shit over and over again. Super sustain is that big problem with most of these champions.
I still think the absolutely worst mechanic In game Is the most simple. Point and click Hard cc.
Mentioning qiyanas wq interaction was very odd to me; as to me, it functions fundamentally different and is meant to allow her do enough dmg by herself for her rock q to be impactful. I see it more like zeds clones doubling his abilities then I do see it as a reset. I understand that it technically is a reset, I feel as though it doesnt function in the same way as other resets in this video do. Dont get me wrong qiyana has her issues balance wise rn, but that's mostly due to her over tuned numbers and her team fight ult (which imo is fundamentally flawed). This is coming from someone who plays a lot of qiyana, I wouldn't say I main her but I do have 120k mastery on her.
I think the best reset mechanic is Ezreal Q.
if you take away viego's R reset you have to give him some other way to get out of a body or big compensation buffs. If he won't have a way to get out it means he will have to stay in a lulu's body for 10 seconds which is not viable at all, so it's better to just not posses. And possessing is his entire thing. Maybe his ult through bodies should be weaker or maybe even it should just be a button that abandons the body without a dash or any damage but forcing him to stay in a body for 10 seconds just makes it so it's usually a bad idea to possess and that also lowers his skill because you don't actually need to know all of the champions, you also don't really need to think if you should posses, since the answer will be no auto piloting to almost never possessing will be close to as good as a viego that can perfectly analyze whether or not it good to possess.
He hates yuumi, and think Irelia is broken
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And you forgot that Irelia has a passive on her ultimate that gives flat cdr on her Q
I think of all kill resets i cut pyke the most slack.
every play must have counterplay.otherwise that's just bad desighn
8:25 even tho irelias dash is supposed to reset entirely 90% of the time it bugs out anyway and doesn't very rarely will her dash actually reset when the target dies anybody that plays irelia consistently knows this and has had it happen to them multiple times
i agree resets can be quite a handful in many situations but saying darius is balanced because hes slow and a juggernaut is not a fair argument. with just ghost darius gets a massive boost in speed and his kill pressure goes from medium to extremely high. you should literally just start running the moment he uses it and pray he doesnt catch you. he has to get the killing blow as well because after he does he can auto-r you from full hp and you die… i wouldnt say his ult is amazing on its own (as shown in ultimate spellbook or with sylas) but you have to remember this champion has slow, movement speed, 200ad for free, massive healing, armor shred etc. even pyke cannot simply auto and r you from full hp. he HAS to land his abilities. all resets are strong circumstantially but a reset that synergizes with your kit so well is all the better. hence samira viego and darius are easily the best kill resets imo.