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Im silver so i dont know if im correct but Jax could have slow pushed since Kayle used flash earlier then chunked her down and since she didnt have flash he would know she couldnt flash out of a dive under tower so he can kill the kayle and with the slow push he would crash a massive wave too, correct me if this is a mistake play
The problem in league is your team will play another game called find 100 ways to die, even if u give them lead, even all they need to do Is auto nexus 1 time to win free game they will find a way to fak that up-and make the game hard for no reason, other then metal issues and disabilitys
not enough info in most of these vids tbh, no idea when kayle was last at base. like if she respawned 20 seconds ago shed either just be in top, bot or be doing jungl camps, freeze for a sec n ping kayle n missing to mid n bot, if she doesnt show up shes either done jungl and backed or sitting under tower, since she showed up jax couldve looked to force a fight since most people dont respect the jump range lol… both shouldve pinged mid to fall back aswell after losing sight of their opponents (or atleast ping river 2 seconds after opponent leaves so your damn team might understand that the enemy is coming) lol
Is this why split pushing is so strong in low elo? It (accidentally) forces the other team to react to you and defend. They have to choose between a 5v4 fight at drag while the Sion top is pushing second tower.
If all of jax’s lanes are winning, are healthy then it’s okay to freeze, kayle won’t have anywhere to go, otherwise he should slow push and set up a dive. Fast pushing imo is wrong as your wave is likely to get stuck just outside of the enemy tower and that’s where kayle likes to be.
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Thank you I’ve been waiting for another top guide
I like how u just picked one of the shit brothers for bad top laners
I'm a low elo player who dives all the time… and I'm starting to get good at it as well!
When I hear McBaze In A Skill-Capped Video, I know it's about to be really good. The other guys are great too, but Man McBaze is just solid everytime!
Well when I am 14/4 top vayne and hey ulted by hecarim and kata I rly don't think I can do anything when I insta die
This is why Yorick is good. After 6, it will automatically push to create pressure
i always tell my viewers that your videos are very misguided and you talk about games in a 1v1 or 2v2 "vacuum" too much. this video is actually very very good. 10/10 all players should bookmark this video and refer to it because this strategy has and will be meta for soloq for ever.
i'm an ADC main and everything covered in this video applies to bottom also, if you try to freeze randomly you let the enemy support roam and control the whole game.
Being a top laner, I'm ashamed I chose to freeze. 😓
I'm a master support learning top lane, the freeze advice actually completely changed my game. Going from silver to plat 4 just controlling waves and paying more attention to what the lane might do rather than trying to freeze amd cheese. I was losing games where I was 11-2 and like felt useless. Now I'm applying pressure, and becoming the ultimate time waster on teemo/sion
well this is really helpfull! thank you for the help this was awesome
which is the best jungler in season 12 what do you guys think?
ehh, freezing is always the best case scenario because it foces kayle to come over so he can pummel her to death if she even tries to soak exp from afar. even if your jungler is mononeuronal monosynaptic he'll come to understand that if kayle goes over to cs she will be royally screwed by the gank and won't ever come back into the game as long as the other jungler doesn't come, and since you jungler also knows this he will be camping to countergank that jungler.
in the 2v2 scenario both jax and allied jungler will still be able to win against jungler + kayle bc she's weaker overall and then jax, only by freezing, is forcing a win-win scenario for himself, and relieving jungle pressure on the map
That clip with urgot and darius was painful to watch. Urgot deserved to die, he took like 2 tower shot and full combo from darius including 3 AA
I 100% consider all of these things when playing
How does a grandmaster jax not know how much damage a gwen does to objectives?
this is extremely trivial but how do you even get a lead these days on top that's not some cancer cheese like barrier warwick? people don't give that many freebies like they used to and there's limited ways to outplay braindead shit like garen or darius. the rest is matchup
Thanks for the insightful video. Top vids are always bangers.
This video is really good when you want to maintain your lead during laning phase. But what if you crush your lane like you said and still lose because you don't know what to do after laning phase as a top. what should i do?
This just sounds like shitty results based analysis with a sprinkle of unrealistic thinking. The idea that Jax is gonna repeatedly outtrade Kayle under her own tower is so delusional. He's going to take 2 tower shots minimum if he Q's to her, and probably the same amount of damage + a tower shot if he walks to her and starts trading then Q's back to his minions, plus his trade will be weaker.
The real answer to this is that Katarina shouldn't be heavily trading when Gwen is at raptors and Kayle is also MIA. Just let mid wave crash, farm it and force someone to go top to bail out the Kayle. Like you said, the Jax can 1v2 (and do it a lot more easily without having to worry about tower). Freezing is proactive. He forces the enemy team to play around him. Kayle is leaving lane because Jax has forced her to. She's denying Gwen CS because Jax has forced her to, which is equivalent to Jax denying Gwen gold and exp. So, by doing 'nothing' he's actually putting 2 people behind.
Katarina being a dirty inter taking dogshit trades with a mid gank being the only good play for the enemy team is 100% on her.
the surprise in that jax case is while u are pushing your team will go 4 vs 5 and give kayle quadra kill .. GG
well i have another problem, if i stomp top like 7/1 and 60 cs vs 20 cs lead and stuff, sometimes i still end up loosing, cause an enemy adc (zeri) gets a free tripple or stuff, things beyond my control ( i d say, even worse with no more tp ganks pre 14)
do you guys have any suggestions on how to deal with this ?
why would i push against a weak kayle and let her farm?
what happened to my boy hector?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EzXkFtiCYg
Obvious you push if you can dive him, but for this you need a very big lead. It's more frustrating for enemy toplaner to not be able to get close to wave and take farm because freezing, then wait your jg is close to top, for push and dive him.
McBaze is an amazing teacher, always breaking down these concepts very clearly, and explaining the most important fundamentals of the game. Great video!
as a diamond toplane player i was doing this mistake usually when i winning my lane hard this video actually shine me thanks a lot
Great video. One small issue: what if I am the one losing lane?
the problem is getting the advantage lmao
How do I get my team to not tilt? I've had 5 out of my last 6 games end with a ff@20. Even had a game where I won lane as Kayle (2 solo kills plus 2 1-for1's on ganks) but bot went combined 1/11.
There are a lot of experts in this comment section.
guys if you feel bad for not gettign the right answers, I'm master top and got it wrong too, it's hard to make the right call when you're not in the situation yourself, just keep improving dont feel bad 🙂
Im currently at plat, I win against master and grandmaster players in 1v1 but I cant carry my team.
"The enemy jungle is (an ally has been slain!) here, so my mates should be (enemy double kill!) nice."
My jungle is afk
Proactive vs Reactive is a GREAT idea for a video! Do it! >:3
Well, preview image is surely bad.
Who in sober mind will mark Quinn as good top laner?
The problem is when I’m putting pressure on top lane, even in late game split pushing, and I get my ass beat by top laner , adc and jgl and my team is not pushing anything
I’m not going to lie, in any other matchup I think this is correct but freezing vs a kayle is truly the best play.
ok lets say you're island'd because you're shit, uncomfortable with the matchup or trying something new. and none of the roam options happen other than getting wave to tower during backs.
i pick the right answer
Conclusion: soloq is filled of monkeys who doesn’t know how to play the game other than agro all the time, play agro or lose the game
Honestly I am a jungler but I have been ranked in Bronze where I don't jungle so I abuse Irelia top and I am on my way back into Silver so I can jungle again. I think toplane is really easy lest you get a counter like idk Garen fucking hate that champ. I'll try to implement these tips to help me get back into a junglable elo.
A lot of the examples are of one champ who is already strong or just outright stronger than their opponent. This allows stuff like jax to gain prio on the wave, urgot had a gank to make him ahead in a snowballing matchup, gwen was stated to already be ahead, etc. I am wondering what to do after the first tower falls from this place or if you are behind how do you still be a useful toplaner while in a counter matchup (say aatrox vs fiora, or trynd vc malphite). For example, I was tryndamere vs jax in a game and was able to outplay and be 5/1 by the time top tower fell, even then I couldl no longer 1v1 jax after he achieved his 2nd item (triforce frozen heart) and felt quite useless since I could never shove a wave and tryndamere is abysmal in grouped teamfights as my ult is off instantly and I am perma useless without it since jax out 1v1s me even being 1/5. How would I play the game from this angle? None of my teammates were ahead enough to push mid and gain pressure and no one could 1v1 jax since his e was up 3 times per fight. I am just genuinely curious how to carry with a lead in a inevitable losing matchup.