In this Valheim guide, we talk about structure stability and how it works along with some building tips and tricks.
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TL:DR I think basic wood structures (Not core wood) Have a maximum strength of 9 meters away from their attached base foundation, and stone has a maximum of 16 meters. The Log Poles using Core Wood seemed to cap out at 24m
I'm not positive, but I believe the building is a distance limit from the nearest attached foundation piece. At 5:30 The larger floor tiles can't go out as far as the smaller ones. This is probably because the end of one more large tile extends past the distance limit from the foundation, whereas the smaller floor tiles does not. Using some graph paper, I rebuilt some of the basic wooden structures and then tested in game and came up with a maximum distance for standard wood being whatever 4.5 squares on my graph paper. Each square equals a 2×2 floor tile. (From now on I'm just going to assume the floor tiles are measured in meters) When building the 5th floor tile at 5:30, this put the build distance at 10mx2m in game, or 5 squares on my graph which would then cause the final piece to collapse. However, when doing this with 1×1 This would make the 1×1 floor tiles at 9 meters x1 meters (or 9meters x2 meters worked as well) I also tested this with your higher walled structures such as the ones on 6:15. Every stable structure I could make ended up coming out with a slope of 4.47 squares on my graph, or just under 9 meters. This leads me to believe that basic wood buildings have a maximum distance from their foundation of 9 meters.
It took me awhile to figure out why your 4×2 stone wall didn't get as high as the 2×1 and 1×1 walls until I realized you built them on a stone floor, which added to the total distance from the foundation. Assuming that a stone floor is 1 meter thick, that means your 4×2 wall was at 15 meters and adding another 4×2 would have put it at 17 meters, exceeding the 16meter limit, whereas your 2×1 and 1x1s landed perfectly at 16 meters, allowing them to be built up higher.
Hopefully this information is helpful. XD
I had roof thatch collapsing until I used beams, they're clearly providing some stability
I honestly think stability is amount of pieces from ground level based on the material
As far as I noticed, you don’t lose ‘stability out’ the higher you get.
It’s just the distance from the foundation, it counts the amount of pieces away from blue.
So ‘structural’ supports in the x axis are just for style. But if you support a high piece with say a 2 meter column it helps large overhangs.
Anything attached to a tree also counts as a blue support.
Nice videos. Thanks. Hi from Brazil!!
We thank you as well , for all the good work
Another great vid! Been a follower of yours for years on Conan and Atlas, thanks for digging into this new game, Im looking forward to getting my crew playing!
I saw that wood attached to stone gets foundation status again. maybe you could go higher by getting near your stone limit, and then continuing with wood?
(Edit) Nevermind, you got there. just had to watch more of the vid first lol
You little scientist, lol
Great video. Made me think of college. This is system is based on structural engineering. The weak point is halfway between two supports (the span). Support that weak point. All strong again.
I can't build stone yet to demonstrate this.
Core pieces are denser and can span further. Try put up two stone pillars and span with core pieces and floor across those.
Walls are levers. Shown at 2:30. Hold up a 30 cm ruler push it at the top while holding the bottom. It bends easy. Push it halfway down it resists much more. Try another thing. Push on the tip of the ruler from out of the sky and see the ruler bow a little. If it was a core piece of wood it would be stiffer and bow less.
As you discuss at 8:40 in video, If you put a support out from halfway down it actually increase the force applied to the wall base rather than helping. You need to complete the loop to another wall to make it possible to effectively use supports. What I mean is get rid of the diving board structure by building the wall on the other side and build to join the two diving boards.
Stone is great for supporting weight hence the floor becomes a foundation. The support linked to a wall should extend that foundation.
Stones will still fall over in a pillar though. Think of the ruler again. Wood is a plastic ruler. Stone is a steel ruler. Pushes over easy but you can push a lot of weight down before it bends. Needs lateral support to show it's strength. Floors around stabilise them.
What about the guide arrows when building. I think these are important if the direction is one way it seems stronger than another. I can't experiment enough yet. I think beams should point along the ends. Floors then out from the beams to max span support.
So doing a little sketching we could span 14 full floor spaces between 2 stones walls with one wood support at 3 walls high. Obviously that can only build 2 stories with you use core pieces. Using supports at wall and wood column will allow more.
Came back to this after starting my giant house build! Thanks!
I was pretty much confused because i coudlnt understand the system until this video revealed the game mechanic to me. Now i can build better without wasting wood which is good in early game or while you are constantly under attack.
The other thing is, i still like wasting material just because of asthetic.
But over all, i still miss something.. I cannot explain it in words ..
Great vid. Had everything I was looking for.
So stone floors act as shelter buff unlike wood floors keep that in mind and you can stack stone floors on top of wood floors but it's tricky and requires stone pillars for support but I made a pretty nice build doing that
Building in this game has a lot of depth.
what if you built a work bench at the stop, would it extend the stability radius?
This game proved to me that you don't need so much of super textures this game already does so much it doesn't need it imo.
Next time sleep when it gets dark lol once it got dark I couldn’t see anything..
i just got boot camp to “run” this on my macbook, wish me luck everyone
"The higher you go the less stable it becomes…" It's called gravity
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Now guide how to get shitton of stone
I use the flat beams for easy floor building.
Whats the best way to support large roofs? Just vertical pillar in the middle?
awesome video. helped me get a better grasp of why my building was imploding lol
also the reason the stone pieces are considered foundation is because they have similar variables to 'ground', which is why you can build a campfire on them, think of them as hybrid terrain. Also have you tested ironcapped pillars yet?
you have to use the wood beams and frame your building and then once its framed you start connecting your walls and roof pieces. so take a standing one and place it where you want your first corner then use the sideways ones and snap them to the standing one at the bottom and decide how long you want your building.
That last part about the stone parts giving wood parts "foundation" level support will be really helpful, thanks!
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Very informational. Thank You!
This game would be the best survival out there if they would release pvp servers. Raid mechanics, and some end game content.
im the vet that watched this chanel because of conan
Hey Man, first of all thank you for all the guides you made, definitely my go-to content creator when i need help. Idk if anyone mentioned it but check out the iron reinforced wood poles. I heard they can give foundation (blue) support to the stone structures up to certain height
This is so useful! Thank you!
Ok, I've started upgrading one of my bases from wood to stone, in the hopes of being able to make it higher and I've run into some problems:
– the wood build pieces and stone pieces don't mesh together that great, because the stone pieces are about (exactly) one small wooden floor thick.
– that fugdes up the building inner and outer footprint calculus. (ex, I build out of wood and I want a house with 7X7 space on the inside, easy-peasy; if I want the same thing but in stone I have to make a 8×8 stone foundation footprint and then place the stone walls "on the inside", biting 0.5 off each edge and thus reaching my 7×7).
– if I don't make my footprint in such a way that I can build exclusively with 4×2 stone walls, and I have to plug in some gaps with the smaller blocks, I'll notice that they lose stability faster. Ex, after building 4 'levels' (4x the avatar height / wood wall height) the following happens:
-> 4 pieces of 4×2 stacked vertically – the top piece is light yellow
-> mix of 4×2 pieces + 2×1 & 1×1 pieces – the top 4×2 piece is dark yellow
-> section when I've only used 'filler' of 2×1 and 1×1 – the top piece is orange
The funny bit here being that you will reach this situation because doors. Unless you have 2 doors on the same side, I guess.
Also, the roof may not line up properly on top of this bundle of joy, if you built it just right :))))) (aka now tear it down and build it back up proper) I'm so glad nor resources get lost on demolish! :))))