Ignored & Insulted! Asmongold reacts to WoW Feedback Crew Exposing Shadowlands Devs | ft. Mcconnell



Mcconnell returns after Asmongold finds out a Twitter thread revealing a secret forum for theorycrafters to talk to WoW devs. Allegedly the Blizzard developers insulted, belittled and gaslit members of said forum when recommending changes. This doesn’t look good for the now delayed Shadowlands release and the class balance of the upcoming expansion…

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30 thoughts on “Ignored & Insulted! Asmongold reacts to WoW Feedback Crew Exposing Shadowlands Devs | ft. Mcconnell”

  1. You may not like MOBAs but that doesn't mean they suck. I don't like RTS games. I played WH40K: Dawn of War, it was okay for couple of hours. I played Warcraft 3 with DLC and it was cool but mostly for the story, the gameplay was just m'kay for me. And Blizzard's Hots is actually more fun than other mobas.

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  2. Im with McCool that classes should be finished and fun without extra systems in place, and i think the missing piece that makes asmon feel like it would be boring is raid sets. That was always the exciting next step in character progression every new raid tier because it added something that would shift your playstyle enough for it to feel fresh again from tier to tier. All these new systems are trying to be replacements for that while also trying to provide build diversity which leads to these messy class designs that dont feel finished or cohesive. They literally tried to reinvent the wheel and somehow made the wheels square, sure with enough brute force they’ll turn but it doesnt mean its going to feel like a nice smooth ride.

    I miss the days where a new expansion meant new dungeon, raid and quest content as well as raid tier sets to work towards. Where balancing in a class was geared around trying to make multiple talent choices viable. Simplicity is definitely a form of elegance in game design and they seem to have lost sight of that.

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  3. If it wasn’t a subscription based game, for literally 15 years now, people wouldn’t give a shit about what developers were doing… look at fortnite, and others alike, (using fortnite due to popularity in its prime), the game was absolute dog shit with literally no “real changes” except cosmetic and blew everything else out of the water… I can’t tell you the last “game” I played that I had to pay a subscription to play it, I emphasize game because I get ps4 and Xbox have to have subscriptions but not for a singular game.. WOW appealed to so many for so long because you paid to play yes, but, you also felt like they listened to you and respected gamers inputs, not corporate inputs, because you are having to pay to play the game. I think they should do away with the subscription personally but I’m not working for blizz so idk how much of a hit that would be… but at this point, they are not pulling in what they are used to and it shows

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  4. I was on a private feedback forum for project ascension's TBC release and they didn't listen to anything I said to them, warning them about doing a massive nerf on everybody for TBC. You used to be able to have a whole bunch of abilities, bubble, blink, disengage, plus all the stuff for your chosen hybrid build…. it was glorious. It took a LOT of theory crafting, a lot of trial and error to come up with something effective especially in PVP.

    For TBC their plan was to increase the cost of various abilities and nerf massively people's damage and HP. So they…. essentially removed bubble, blink, disengage, etc etc, from everyone's builds. Everyone had to come up with something that uses roughly 2/3 of the abilities they previously had. When I logged on after it half my action bar had disappeared. I went from doing up to 5k burst DPS on people using killing spree and various macros to increase damage, to doing about 1.5k dps with the same ability / effects. I was fucking disgusted.

    They lost a large portion of their playerbase because of this. The reason I'm saying this is just to relate, really. To Blizzard making it so your character in the future …. is WEAKER than your character in the past. It's not a good way to get people to keep playing your fucking game. Making them weaker.

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  5. While I agree with Mcconnell that Ret aura is a selfish buff, unless I'm mistaken there can only be one version of any aura up at any time, so if all auras are covered then an aura that just buffs yourself makes sense.

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  6. I think, when people complain about the class balance not being fun. They ironically don't want balance, they want classes to be unique but regardless of broken or not they want the opportunity to do cool things. Which at the end of the day is solely dependent on how the community feels per season.

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  7. It's like inviting a group of NASA scientists to consult on your space program only to tell them to sit in the corner while you attach c4 to the bottom of a shopping cart.

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  8. Wow is completely dead to me. Tbc is the only reason to come back ever again. I have 0 faith blizz will be able to turn wow around and return it to its glory days. Just beating a dead horse at this point, ff14 is better anyways. I don't play ff14 but playing with your neighbors dead cat is better than playing wow

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  9. The way the person that made the twitter thread talks, the devs are horrible insulting monsters. Then the screenshots as evidence are posted and it's a politely written comment explaining their point, which isn't rude or insulting at all lol

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  10. Private feedback forums are bullshit, they ignore the forums of paying customers. Getting sick of paying a monthly cost for this trash game. Our monthly sub goes into other games while we continue to pay for a game that gets worse and worse.

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  11. This just sounds like a sjw crying cause the devs wouldn't give them their way. The posts from the devs definitely didn't seem so "condescending mountain ego sized fascists" as they claimed them to be.

    Maybe instead of taking snips, I'd like to read the entire thread.

    Edit: also if their argument about the validity of the private forums is pandas and WOD, I'd rather then, that it didn't exist.

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  12. To McConnell: I feel you man but that's how they do things. It's deliberate to make something good and then ruin it to elicit negative emotions that are very powerful so people change classes and start gearing them up all over again. They keep people engaged that way. I think they like both people to outrage and give throw them a very nice bone once in a while to make them feel loved and special just to dump them again. It's like a toxic relationship with an ex and it has always been. My personal advice: never get too attached with anything in this game
    Edit: oops i just realized this is an old video but point still remains lol

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  13. I think you hit the nail on the head when saying that most people giving feedback don’t have a clue what they’re talking about, nor really appreciate which changes would be good for the game. Game developers should really take fan feedback with a pinch of salt at times.

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  14. They were there around MoP and WoD, or at least taken seriously around that time……. WHAT STRONGEST SYSTEM AND GAME DESIGN THAT THE GAME HAS SEEN?! I'm really confused by this, lollll. I think these people took themselves too seriously.

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