Apex Legends Match Making Broken [SBMM Explained]



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Apex Legends SBMM Is A Problem And It’s Not Getting Better as this has been a function in the game for a very long time. We have players getting stuck in lobbies that are new to the game against players with way more expierence and high tier 20 bomb and 4k badges. Respawn stated that in season 9 apex legends would be introducing arenas and have a different system built around it but it appears that also failed and didnt work the way they intended it to.

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  1. The main problem with the SBMM in PUBS games is…

    For lower skilled peoples the SBMM is amazing because they can face players of their level without master, etc.

    BUT for higher skilled poeple it will be a HELL for two reasons:

    1:
    The matchmaking time: If you take a look of the official stats made by Respawn you can see there is not much masters and especially preds, if you are at this ranked you can tell how long you wait in the lobby to start a game. Sometimes it's BORING AS F**K!

    2:Try hard including in pubs: If a Highly skilled player want to play a quick chill game in pubs, with the SBMM boosted like a rocket it will be no more relaxing and "chill", it will be a ranked game without points.

    So for the conclusion of sbmm in pubs, I think Blisk was right, "They kill you, they better. You kill them, You are better"!

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  2. I am diamond level in Arenas. If I run solo I got bronze and silver teammates. But I would go up against teams of my level. Then I found out, that it pulls my teammates from my BR level, unbelievable right. Since I don’t play BR I was in silver 4. So I stopped playing arenas and bumped up my BR level up to platinum 4. Now I get platinum and gold teammates in my Arena matches. Crazy right. Someone made a coding copy and paste error. That is my theory.

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  3. I still watch your videos but stop playing Apex skill-based matchmaking sucks for me I’m level 250 my teammates are always 100 or under and I’m always dying to people over level 300 I had to stop playing battle royale‘s and encourage people to get off take some time off you can’t win a lot of games and it made gaming un-fun for me bad for mental health

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  4. Sorry to bother you but but did you see my comment about the question for the podcast again sorry because I just want it answered because I think we all know respawn ent. Should be owned by someone else and buy it's own servers

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  5. I actually tested this recently. Made a smurf and started playing trio's. I'm smurfing so I'm better than the average new player but my k/d is still only around 2. I'm rank 31 on that account now and every single match I've been dying to level 200+ master/diamond players every game. Haven't won a game in 50+ matches because of it. It's COMPLETELY broken.

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  6. It weird how my experience is the opposite of that lvl 70 guy. Im lvl 480, with a KD of .60 , which i played hard to get…as pathetic as that may seem, I'm not very competitive or win obsessed, i just enjoy playing well. When i play Pubs i play better and get more wins, when i play ranked i get sweated out 90% of the time and have trouble climbing. I'm still only a gold1/plat3 ranked player.
    My gripe is that premade teams void SBMM because you got to pick your team, while us solo queue only people, truly bow to the will of the Apex SBMM God. They simply should make team play separate and force everyone to solo queue otherwise, which would allow the SBMM to work better.

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  7. Please read this:

    I am very passionate about the topic of SBMM. I frequently post on the official Apex Forums and sometimes my threads are out right removed by mods.

    I often conduct small data pulls on the SBMM in Apex. I’m an above average player (51k kills on Pathfinder and Masters).

    BR (pubs): Pubs play very similar to Master lobbies for me. Based on contrails, 60-80% of my lobby is comprised of Pred/Master trails, with the rest being Diamond or no trails. My pubs are legitimately harder than Diamond lobbies. Because of this, I don’t win often. In fact, I know several Gold/Plat level players who win way more than me— not because they are better than me, but because they aren’t facing the top 4% of players in the world consistently.

    Arenas (pubs): My wait times to find an arena match often go past 5 minutes. And I almost always end up playing against some premade Master/Pred team. This is literally anything but casual.

    Conclusion: SBMM is absolutely positively needed for ranked, and in some degree for pubs for new players.

    But there is NO reason that pubs should require players to play to the absolute best of their ability. That’s exactly what ranked is for. Low or average skilled players should NOT be winning at rates similar to Diamond or Master players. Public matchmaking shouldn’t result in equal outcomes. Good players should win way more than average players— I hate that this idea is controversial.

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  8. I haven’t got normal level teammates Since I was level 40 now I’m 152 and all predictor lobbies and I’m supper bad at the game I’m no joke I think I’m 0.3 or 0.4 kill rateo like why do I get pred lobbies

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  9. Dog shit retards that suck at the game blame skill based match making. Instead of complaining that someone is better than you (admitting how garbage you are) try getting better so that you don’t constantly die to them.

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  10. It’s just ridiculous.
    I’m always against the best, and I’m stuck with the worst.
    There are too many examples…. But to name a few, my killers:
    Predator
    Master
    4K badge
    20 kill
    10/10/10
    No stats (hiding skill)
    And …. Level 28, 300 kills…
    Octane still broke, sound and servers broke…
    Players aren’t rewarded for staying, so all quit. New content doesn’t repair the user bases terrible attitude.
    Beginning to hate it

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  11. Level 1600 here.
    Unless I lose 5 matches with 1-3 kills or less. My teammates will all be low levels and terrible.
    The development team doesn't realize how easy the game is by 3 stacking, vs how much more challenging the game is by solo Qing.

    Average kills solo 1-3
    Average kills 3 stacking 5-8+

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  12. For me Apex matchmaking is to maximize ragequits. It's not fun as a gutter tier player get your ass handed to yourself by masters and preds in every single match.

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  13. It definitely needs to go back to the old days when everyone was in their own lobbies. They started putting everyone in the same lobby as a joke. They think it is fair to put you against sweaty try hards when you have very low level teammates or none at all. This game has been losing the fun and enjoyment to even play anymore. Why even have a ranked mode if you are playing that tough in public matches? Arenas is just a pointless mode to be honest. They should of just added a solos mode like every other game has successfully done.

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  14. I don't wanna talk too much cause I can. But Every year I take a break for some reason and come back to the game the next year of the previous one. I forgot my game since and I need to play some games to recognize them again but the game still thinks that I am that last year's person my gameplay is fairly good and needs to still be put against god players. My lvl is also 148 .

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  15. I thought it was just normal to be below level 100, and see nothing but Diamond and Master dive trails. SBMM has been broken in every game it’s ever been implemented in. Name 1 AAA game where it worked as intended.

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  16. There is definitely something sneaky going on with BR matchmaking. Every so often (usually after a loss streak or it'll be my first game of the day) the game puts me in a game that I'm clearly supposed to win. It's so different to the normal matches I'm in its super obvious. When I do win those games I don't actually feel satisfied with the win. Actually I usually stop playing and switch to another game. What's the point of winning if the game feels rigged for you to win?

    That being said, all of my other pubs games seem to have a master's/pred team as the champion. Or many 4k 20 bombs. I'm here struggling to get a 2k but whatever sure I'll give those guys an extra kill on top of the 20,000 they already have on their banners.

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