Although the new ballistics made the AS-VAL and VSS better suited for mid-range combat, the recoil changes and ammunition debuffs make this weapon very difficult to control. Is the weapon really bad now?
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yeah i use the VSS with good ammo but semi-auto only and with a pso scope, only go full auto when close
When im get lvl 3 prapor I'm gonna be runnin the VSS and gonna be on single fire until it's CQC (within 30-60 meters). SP6 at lvl 3 prapor is gold not to mention the cheap craft for lvl 2 workbench but takes so long to craft lol. Still a good option that isnt too expensive
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I find it’s Very good. The rotor grip is needed to make the recoil Con playable. Problem is last wipe you’d have to buy it on glee for 100k.
Now you can give mechanic a milk for it. For the price, the Val and VSS are incredible in the right scenario. I’d say the performance shits on the p90 and the ump.
Need a buff on the rotor stock
no. no, they're not bad now. They're useless
Bad now? They've been bad for like 3-1/2 wipes lmao…
Bsg always do this.. A gun that is too OP they then turn it into a completely un-usable gun.
God I'm do happy you do YouTube content as well. Love the streams, but my schedule for work I can only catch streams when off in the middle of the week which is rare. Love the content.
New recoil pretty much forces you to slap all of the best -% recoil mods on your gun to make it more or less viable. This game gets more and more meta-heavy with every balance change. Budget and medium class gun builds are not viable anymore.
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I tend to prefer semi-auto fire and the semi-auto on the VSS looked super clean. Might try it out anyway.
I hadn't used the vss/val since the initial recoil nerf 4 wipes ago I believe? Not sure exactly when but hadn't used it since it was still a laser. I've been running the exact same val with rk2 and PRS non stop with sp5 because of it's cheap price for decent class 5/6 pen. I've run the durability down to 78 max taking it in every raid but it's only jammed once and I've not had any trouble chewing through slicks/hexgrids and killa armour so I definitely recommend it if you know you'll be able to get a lot of raids out of it (because like you said, the gun itself and the 30 rounders are quite expensive)
i still love the as val, i only dont use it on full auto anymore.. but semi-auto it still amazing whit all the bullets
holy shit that first guy he killed was some paid actor crap that's so much gear
Vss on semi is the best thing in the game lvl 15-30
It heating like my pc while playing tarkov
Deadly your videos were not getting recommended to me for some reason even though I'm subscribed to you, just found this video.
Deadly your videos were not getting recommended to me for some reason even though I'm subscribed to you, just found this video.
not your fault but i got no ads when i started the video (which is cool) but then i got a midroll ad like a minute in and it pissed me off a bit. good video tho
Is the vss not on the flea I can only find the as Val
They ruined these amazing rifles. VSS has 3.27 as best MOA so you can't even use it to snipe at 100m and it sucks to see
the rate at which suppressors get red hot in tarkov is bullshit… i have a can on my fun gun range toy, its a 7.5" barrel 5.56 AR with a binary trigger.. i can dump mag after mag after mag, and it doesnt glow red hot.. its hotter than shit, but not red hot, and doesnt effect whether or not the gun functions properly.
They tried WAY too hard on some of the shit that they added.. that and the fact that you cant free look while ADS anymore is fucking stupid.
really dissapointed with some of the changes this wipe.. too many things got "fixed" that werent broken…
vss semi auto use like dmr with harder to hit at range nbeing trhe issue then u dont need to use foregrip just the mount for laser
Boomer Looter to the maximum in this video!
Deadly, go put 150k worth of mods on an hk416 (not the most money to spend on the gun, but a decent amount) and go shoot it in the range. You'll be absolutely shocked at how dogwater it is. I don't know why they are trying to make it so these guns are horrid. The HK only gets reigned in when you finally blow insane amounts of money on it with best in slot attachments. Even then it's a shell of it's former self.
For a final tier gun you unlock at the end of the mechanic/peacekeeping questline, at lvl 4 traders. Something weird is going on and it doesn't make much sense to me
Ehh, I'm calling operator error. Those guns slap. You just need to practice with it more.
been using vss alot and it is still very viable in cqb but awful otherwise
the VAL and VSS fit a niche spot in the meta now. the guns are basically unusable full auto past 10-15 meters unless you are crouched while firing. but if you think of it as another sr-25 or vepr-136, and use it single fire only, then they can shine for the price. the VAL is 100-120k on the market, and it's very cheap to kit out from there. you honestly don't even need to pay for a grip if you don't want to cause base ergo is high and the 4-5 recoil from a grip is irrelevant. add a sight/scope and a flashlight and it's set. so all in all it's price can vary from 130-160k fully kitted. which is relatively cheap for a suppressed weapon. but the big bonus of the VAL is the ammo. sp-6 can be crafted at level 20 and crafts in batches of 300. it has almost the exact same stats as 7.62×39 BP but it is available MUCH earlier, crafts faster, and the craft is cheaper per bullet. the sp-6 craft comes out to 393 rubles a round in the current market. which is half the price of the BP craft per round. and it's 6 hours faster.
if you are filthy rich, i think an AKMN or a kitted m1a/sr-25/g28 with m61 is obviously better. but the VAL has insanely strong ammo available super early on and the gun isn't that expensive when you take into account that it comes suppressed.
to add onto this, if you are patient on the flea market, you can filter for VSS rifles that are at ~90 durability or higher and just sit there refreshing. eventually people put them up for ~60k. so you can basically kit a VSS for 100k or less if you're stingy.
Seems like the first guy you took down is.. gold farmer? Who let their guards down? They probably had their cheats on, know you have a AS VAL, but didn't realize how OP AS VAL could be….
idk why but i love putting on the Undertale soundtrack on while watching goes very well would recommend also great vids 🙂
Vss is cheap, sp-6 is worth crafting up as it melts level 4 instantly and does work on level 5. Just tap fire
How does the VAL build cost 200k?🤔
alltime watcher and big fan BUT : xplain2me how you manage to get youtube flag an at best 720p video as an 1440p one oO ? my eyes hurts because of the quality im not blind…not yet oO that one really really bugged me ALWAYS…. dude your face is SO pixelated -.-
They need to reduce recoil to make it so that lowest tecoil build is like 49 it wouldnt be a laser but like it would be more usable it is still a really good gun
I really feel like they just need to make the gun rare and put it back to being a laserbeam because if you watch videos of it being fired full auto there isn't much recoil
A bad gun? No
Expensive? YES
You can pretty much buy any of the 5.45mm AK's for the same price as a 30 round VAL mag…then the gun itself you could buy a full 308 (M80) set up for the price of the VAL itself without attachments or ammo
For real?? Even SP5 has way higher dmg AND pen than, say, 7.62×39 PS which kicks harder. And BP is probably the most powerful small rifle ammo in the entire game. This gun rips!
single fire at range and full auto in cqb is kinda how it should be to be honest.
Whaaaaaatttttt!?!?!?! I've been using the VSS with sp6 constantly! It barely moves on my build, especially with the canted sight on the front
It seems that the radar is included in the streamer set )))
My favourite gun…Hits hard, comes suppressed, a beast inside 150m. Outside of that range the round is too slow to be a DMR damn rounds loop into a target – 290m/s is slow.
Hayll no. I doinked 2 giga chads with an altyn and quads easy. Love the val cause its just. Nasty
Pro tip: leave the val on semi auto
Hjelm??? That's Norwegian for helmet… Or Swedish or Danish for same thing.
If ur using sp5, youre better off and its cheper to run an mo7 with fmj, fmj is cheap and it has better stats than sp5, and with the mp7 you have less recoil and good ergo witout even having to put attachments on it
Interesting Fact: The VSS was so expensive to produce, the Soviet Union looked to another weapon smith to make a cheaper variant. And so the VSK-94 was born in 1995 by Vasily Gryazev, chambered in 9×39. Although less reliable than the VSS due to cheaper assembling, it still performed greatly and was used by Law Enforcement and later adopted into the Russian Army.
Nice vid! The As val has seen better days tho