One day I was scrolling through YouTube, you know how I do. And through my clicking I stumbled upon a video by a Youtuber named When Jesus Leads. The video is called “Question for Black Atheist”. It’s basically a black christian man asking a specific youtuber Black Atheist Rants some questions. Some “how do you explain this??” type of questions.
By the way, if you haven’t yet you should check out Black Atheist Rants channel. He’s very high energy, passionate, and fun. He’s currently doing a series still I think on Genesis going through the chapters of that book. So check him out.
So like I said, the video was not intended for me. But in the spirit of not minding my own business I decided to make my own response video to those questions. And here are my quite unsolicited opinions.
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So tell me…what are your thoughts on morality? How do you handle the Jesus’ body debate? Why do you think Christianity spread like it did. How do you describe and live out justice? Let me know what you think in the comments below. Share this video with a real life historian.
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Well actually even way back then there was infighting on whether or not Jesus really rose from the dead and multiple other issues like his he was really God's son. it's not like Christianity started with a consensus, it took a while to put to geather what is considered cannon and mostly decided by when ya really look at it was on sect discrediting the other sects by demonizing them. So this believing in a literal restriction consensus is a little inaccurate to begin with.
I recently learned that the term to use for these morality statements by theists is "absolute morality." "Objective Morality" is something, if we can come up with an agreed upon set of goals and rules and measures, that can exist. However the basis for such goals, etc will still be subjective.
I think the body issue first has to be was there a body at all? Did the version of Jesus from the bible even exist?
For the prediction of the kingdom don't all religious leaders predict that they will grow their little movements into hugs movements?
When it comes to his supernatural justice, doesn't Gawd give them an ultimate "Get out of Jail" card? Screw up, ask for forgiveness then keep going like you didn't do what bad you did in the past?
Indeed, Christianity has been corrupted, please find another religion. God is Real
I have a degree in theology and the “questions” this guy was asking.are so self indulging as to be meaningless. And by the way theologians already know how Christianity spread: Roads & Wars. It’s like asking how in the world did the English language spread. : Roads and War. As for good and evil. That’s an anthropological question. Humans are hard wired to survive and pass on their genes. That which helps that along is generally felt to be good. (Food, clothing, shelter, sex) . That which limits access to the same is generally seen as bad or evil. As I heard once in a movie; “There’s no good or bad , it’s just popular opinion. “ As for the body question. Gimme a break.Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just cause there is no body doesn’t mean there wasn’t one. The main straw man here is the Question Boy is ASSUMING the infallibility of a book (we call it a library because it’s really a collection of books) that’s been translated and manipulated countless times.
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Morality appears to be an emergent property of higher social animal species e.g. mammals. It is a necessary property of a social species to be able to work to common ends, leveraging the greater power and advantages of the group while retaining order and suppressing internal conflict. A delicate balancing of the needs of the individual with the group to the purposes of survival and flourishing.
Behaviours and supporting concepts we would recognize as synonymous with morality, such as a sense of fairness, self-sacrifice, mourning, have all been observed in primates, elephants, wolves and family dogs.
It would appear that many/all of these moral traits are natural products of empathy – the abstract ability to 'put oneself in another's shoes' – to feel their pain as your own, to understand what it feels like to be treated unjustly.
No gods are required here, just natural processes of evolution and lots and lots (and lots) of time.
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Omo, as people of my generation would say, right on.👍 Just a few minutes ago I was responding to a pastor named Copeland explaining that humanity’s morals change over time and the prohibition against slavery has left the Bible in the dust. This guy you are responding to seems to be new at this apologetics. An active pair of grave robbers can initiate a whole series of resurrections if the disappearance of a body is all it takes prove it. You are forgiven for responding this guy, he was just asking for it.
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Socialism is the economic system that attempts to enact secular humanism in govt. Ending poverty, providing services, and protecting the vulnerable are all supposed to be Christian attributes but then they vote for right wingers who hate everything Jesus stood for. Love your channel Omo Igbo!
I'm hoping to one day see you on a call in show. Maybe like truth wanted with objectivelydan
YES! You said it perfectly! Morality is not stagnant. Once it is, then there is a problem, thus religion.
Studying the history of how the doctrine came to be, it's all general consensus and demonizing the opposition. The bible was never meant to be the bible. That didn't even happen until over a millennia after Jesus supposedly lived on earth. It's difficult to research the bible's history because of all the propaganda and flat out misinformation but that's what I have learned thus far.
I agree with what I think you are saying: morality is a fluid concept that changes depending on what an individual thinks about it. Everyone makes a judgement call on what they believe is moral or not. Some just try to judge by comparing any given action against how it aligns with a book they read.
How did Christianity spread? Marketing. You wanna live forever? We got that. Wanna hear that all the people who have done bad things to you will be punished in the end? We got that. Wanna hear that the rich should give to the poor? We got that!
What happened to Jesus body? No idea. If he really existed, it seems quite possible that his followers could have hidden his body somewhere else. If it was found, no one would know it was him.
Thanks for another fun and interesting video!
I honestly find it borderline insane when believers try to take a jab at atheists' sense of morality by toting that their book casts sin on those who rape and murder. So you're telling me that the only reason you think rape and murder is bad is because of your religion? So if your religion wasn't there, would you even genuinely think those things were bad without a higher being having to tell you?
They didn't show his body because at the time he died it was no big deal. The authorities regarded him as a common criminal with a following too small to pay attention to and the body was chucked into a mass grave.
The interesting thing is that Hitler thought that the Germans (or the Aryan race) where God's chosen people, and looking at how the bible commanded the chosen people in the past to commit genocide and perceiving the Jews as people who betrayed God, it becomes quite obvious that believing in deities doesn't make people any more moral; quite the opposite actually, it gives people excused and justifications for doing such horrible things in the name of their deity.
Regarding the body of Jesus, if that guy actually existed in the first place then it probably ended up in a mass grave and not a tomb. The tomb story is clearly fictional (like most stuff in the bible), but the really interesting thing is that a very popular opinion in early Christendom was the believe that Jesus had been a being without a body in the first place, that he was a spiritual entity and thus there cannot be a body in the first place.
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I do not believe that this super duper white man black man God creature called Jesus Christ ever existed, ever. It's all a bunch a mythology put forth to propagate and revel in the false premise of white supremacy.
“When Jesus Leads” is trapped inside a “Bible Bubble”. Incapable of being objective and applying reason.
referencing circa 2:50 to 4:36 – the reason why it's not enough is because it doesn't address those who are not Omo Igbo and freely choose not conform to what your standards are for a society in which you want to live. They want to live in a society that would permit things and even encourage the things that you would not do. They are just operating in a way that suits their goals which is neither right nor wrong, it's just socio-biological adaptations over time. On what grounds should you tell them no to do those things? Richard Dawkins described it is "pitiless indifference" for the case without an objective moral standard. I would expect adherents to the idea that there are no moral objectives and duties to have a pitiless indifference how primates behave.
Check out the Spanish inquisition it was disgusting.
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I was going to respond to this guy. But I never got around to it. This was a great video🔥🔥🔥🔥 you are awesome 💯
A black, female, African, atheist. Ugh yes, I’m in tears. I never thought I’d find someone like me! 🥺💕
It got big when the Roman Empire saw how it could bring people under contol.
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Another fantastic video. Thank you. I'm a historian, so I may be able to offer some helpful information for a few of the points you correctly made. First, there is some compelling evidence (texts, glyphs, and such) that Akhenaten, an Egyptian pharaoh from the 14th century BCE, may have actually been the originator of monotheism. He had a serious obsession with his dad and reformed religion in Egypt to essentially make his father the sole deity. It's not a tidy monotheism, but some historians argue that this may be where Judaism got the idea for a monotheistic deity. Like many of the stories in the Bible, monotheism was likely copied from something else. Second thing is the spread of 'Christianity, specifically in Europe. In the 4th century CE, the Romans chose to adopt Christianity as their official religion, and it was essentially the size of the Roman empire combined with their incredibly effective/efficient network of roads that enabled Christians to proselytize far and wide, spreading the influence of Christianity. The philosophical points you make are also spot on, but without the geographic help and government sanctioning, it's hard to imagine that Christianity would have gained the traction that it did during that time in history.
I've watched a bunch of your videos, and I have to say that I feel a deep sense of gratitude for what you are doing. My personal story isn't exactly like yours (if nothing else, I am a white male…so there is that…lol), but so many of the experiences that you've endured and so many of the thoughts that you share here with us resonate so powerfully with me or mirror my own thoughts/experiences. After all, brains are brains. One thing that I've sort of internally bemoaned over the years but never had the energy/courage to fix is what I perceive as a lack of community amongst those of us who identify as agnostic or atheist or some variation thereof. Growing up in a Reformed Baptist church, I remember that their sense of community was damn near bulletproof. If someone lost their job, often they'd have another lined up within a week thanks to a fellow church member. If someone needed a babysitter/work done on their car or house/legal advice/tax advice/etc, etc…the members of the church would help them out. They have a very real, very powerful sense of community and communal identity. Recent events have helped remind us of how much political power they wield. I think this is one of the reasons why so many Christians are terrified of asking the hard questions and challenging the dogmas of the pastors/people who hold power over them. To question those figureheads and those ideas is to potentially jeopardize your acceptance within that community. I know – I was made painfully aware in my teens of how much my questioning was not appreciated. So, long story long, it would be nice (what a small word) if we agnostics/atheists had some type of similar community where we could watch out for each other and provide each other with support. That's why I began this (too long) post with gratitude. I could be misreading your intentions here, but it seems like you are in fact helping to create that sense of community, albeit on a platform where you are essentially the sole focus and the rest of us are names on screens in the comment section. I appreciate you.