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Army Lists:
BLOOD ANGELS ARMY LIST:
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium – Adeptus Astartes – Blood Angels) [100 PL, 1,940pts] ++
+ Configuration +
*Chapter Selection*
Detachment CP
+ HQ [11 PL, 230pts] +
Captain [6 PL, 140pts]: Angel Exemplar, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Jump Pack [1 PL, 25pts], Storm shield [10pts], Thunder hammer [20pts], Warlord
Librarian [5 PL, 90pts]: Force sword, Frag & Krak grenades, Smite
+ Troops [15 PL, 315pts] +
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor [80pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant [25pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistol [5pts]
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor [80pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant [25pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistol [5pts]
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor [80pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant [25pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistol [5pts]
+ Elites [38 PL, 660pts] +
Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 240pts]: 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets, 5x Aggressor [200pts], Aggressor Sergeant [40pts]
Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 180pts]
. 4x Bladeguard Veteran [140pts]: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield
. Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant [40pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Master-crafted power sword, Plasma pistol [5pts], Storm Shield
Death Company Marines [16 PL, 240pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 20pts]
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
. Death Company Marine [22pts]: Frag & Krak grenades
. . Bolt pistol and chainsword: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol
+ Fast Attack [24 PL, 495pts] +
Inceptor Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor [80pts], Inceptor Sergeant [40pts]
Invader ATV Squad [12 PL, 240pts]
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 80pts]: Bolt pistol, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin auto bolt rifle
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 80pts]: Bolt pistol, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin auto bolt rifle
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 80pts]: Bolt pistol, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Twin auto bolt rifle
Outrider Squad [6 PL, 135pts]
. 2x Outrider [90pts]: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle
. Outrider Sgt [45pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Twin Bolt rifle
+ Heavy Support [12 PL, 240pts] +
Eradicator Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Melta rifle
. 2x Eradicator [80pts]: 2x Bolt pistol
. Eradicator Sgt [40pts]: Bolt pistol
Eradicator Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Melta rifle
. 2x Eradicator [80pts]: 2x Bolt pistol
. Eradicator Sgt [40pts]: Bolt pistol
++ Total: [100 PL, 1,940pts] ++
NECRONS ARMY LIST:
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Necrons) [94 PL, 10CP, 1,975pts] ++
+ Configuration [12CP] +
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]
Detachment CP
Dynasty Choice: Circumstance of Awakening: Relentlessly Expansionist, Dynastic Tradition: Eternal Conquerors, Dynasty: <Custom>
+ No Force Org Slot [5 PL, 105pts] +
Dynastic Advisor [5 PL, 105pts]
. Chronomancer [5 PL, 105pts]: Arkana: Hypermaterial Ablator [1 PL, 25pts], Chronotendrils, Entropic Lance
+ HQ [17 PL, -2CP, 340pts] +
Catacomb Command Barge [9 PL, 185pts]: Gauss Cannon [5pts], Relic: Orb of Eternity, Resurrection Orb [30pts], Warlord, Warlord Trait (Codex 3): Immortal Pride, Warscythe [5pts]
Chronomancer [4 PL, -1CP, 80pts]: Chronotendrils, Dynastic Heirlooms [-1CP], Entropic Lance, Relic: Veil of Darkness
Royal Warden [4 PL, -1CP, 75pts]: Rarefied Nobility [-1CP], Relic Gauss Blaster, Warlord Trait (Codex 5): Implacable Conqueror (Aura)
+ Troops [42 PL, 910pts] +
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 260pts]
. 20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) [260pts]: 20x Gauss Reaper
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 260pts]
. 20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) [260pts]: 20x Gauss Reaper
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 260pts]
. 20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) [260pts]: 20x Gauss Reaper
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 130pts]
. 10x Necron Warrior (Gauss Flayer) [130pts]: 10x Gauss Flayer
+ Elites [18 PL, 350pts] +
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer [18 PL, 350pts]: Power of the C'tan: Antimatter Meteor, Power of the C'tan: Gaze of Death, Scythe of the Nightbringer
+ Fast Attack [12 PL, 270pts] +
Canoptek Scarab Swarms [6 PL, 135pts]
. 9x Canoptek Scarab Swarm [135pts]: 9x Feeder Mandibles
Canoptek Scarab Swarms [6 PL, 135pts]
. 9x Canoptek Scarab Swarm [135pts]: 9x Feeder Mandibles
++ Total: [94 PL, 10CP, 1,975pts] ++
Holy crap. The way Luka described his army I was ready for another depressing smash job with Necron being unkillable, but this was great. Thank you Luka and Dave for having so much fun smashing these armies together!
Nice list Dave
Blood Angels!
How the hell are Death Company susceptible to morale rules? Isn't the whole point of them that they're insane berserkers who charge heedless of their own losses?
Just looking at the armies, could just be me, but those paint jobs are very off putting for the blood angels. Gold trims… No chapter/company markings… then a captain and lieutenant being used as a trooper and sergeant! The painting skill is high, but I really don't like the results. Hope you don;t mind constructive criticism, it may well just be me…
my ocd doesn't like the white hair on the black of the fireball/meteorite
guy with yellow die should more roll them than gently put them on the table
chaos comment bomb! haha jk π
warriors only move 5", theyd only get the 5" move before the game starts as the rules states they may move up to 6"
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Luca's dice are wild
I love seeing the night bringer. My friend plays him a lot, but that is what smites are for
Can someone explain to me how the necrons could reanimate straight away during the charge phase? Was it a stratagem or a dynasty rule? Im pretty new to this so i dont have great depth if the rules
In 9th I have yet to beat blood angels, I also don't have a nightbringer since he was out of stock, we play at 1,000/1,250/1,500/1,750 lists. Worst battle so far was still my necrons and tau vs a sisters and blood angel (heavy dreadnaught list) . . . we didn't even finish turn 2, was no point with how much of our armies were wiped out. Didn't help they had first go and sister's getting first round is just painful, multi-melta bikes from blood angels are also a pain. Literally a 1-2 punch, sisters turn one blow a hole in the enemy lines and blood angels clean up everything from there.
The more I learn about this game the more I dislike it
Great batrep, love to see the crons and ba, man that was rough for one of them.
Luka, you can reanimate from MW, in fact any wounds, as long as they happen in the shooting or fight-phase, since the . So that attack from the Death Company, you could have had reanimation there.
So many rules and tactical mistakes. I donβt think I have seen Luka win yet, or even come close, with a myriad of necron lists
3+ save and ap -4 the atv's don't get a save unless there is a thing that turns blood angles to -1 ap for attacks
I feel that this match is just really hard for Necrons. Blood Angels outclass them in Movement, Psychic, Shooting, and Melee and this isn't even a good Blood Angels list vs a near competitive Necrons build. Luka could have played it better for sure but the outcome was always that he would be blown off the table. The only question was if he could scrape together enough VP before he is obliterated.
I have a buddy with a competitive Blood Angels list looking to take tournaments and he has told me several times that he doesn't even know how Necrons could beat his list. Blood Angels, as they currently are, just outclass Necrons so wildly. He feels he has played bad if I still have any models by the end of turn 2.
I'm inclined to agree, virtually the whole army is superior for the same or less pts.
Take for Example Eradicators, even with the pts increase, If you compare them to a Doomstalker or Doomsday Ark, their shooting output relative to pts spent is DOUBLE against most targets. Hard for Necrons to compete when their opponent is getting double the value for the same pts.
Blood Angels are insanely strong right now. Marines were already fantastic and the BA book made them even stronger. I'm not saying the sky is falling for Necrons, they aren't at the bottom, they are probably sitting in that 50-60th percentile if you play them well. But BA is in the 98th percentile.
This is how you can have a game like this with a competitive Necron list piloted by someone with experience running the list going into a mediocre BA list piloted by someone unfamiliar with the army and the Nerons get utterly hosed.
25:35 With RP, arent you supposed to roll for reanimation after the UNIT gets done its attacks? In this case its after the unit gets done firing its weapon. Which one is it?
Reapers should have wounded bikes in 4s not 5s. Not that it mattered
Gauss Cannon is S6
I swear every time I see the "flayed skin" warriors all I see are necrons wearing life preservers.
Great battle report guys!
Old and wise Dave spanking Luka! I love it! ππππππππ―π―π―ππππ
Death Company failing moral is just sad and does break immersion. Awesome game, thanks!
Regular Intercessors seem like a really poor troop choice for Blood Angels.
I enjoyed watching this match. I learned quiet a bit about BAs and Necrons.
honestly, I'd have brought a spyder or 2 instead of that last unit of warriors. Anyone else?
Not really a negative just a curious question. I feel like every batrep i see for necrons is more or less the same build. I rarely see some of the weirdness of the forces. I am surprised very little in the way of doomstalkers. Stalkers or either of the arks or tomb blades. And i dont think i have ever seen the inclusion of one of the named lords. I guess he likes his warrior heavy forces but still its a bit surprising not to see more variety in some of the lists. Heck havent even seen the inclusion much in the way of snipers for necrons. Though i dont really know what the meta is.
When are we going to see the Silent King on the tabletop?
Loving this necron list! Have you used any triarch stalkers or a spyder scarab? Thanks for sharing.
Dave, if you had the command points, when your Death Company Marine was stuck in and surrounded by Warriors, you could have used Upon Wings of Fire to pull him out (fluffwise, he was going to find Horus), opening the Warriors up for shooting.
Spoilers below!
I disagree with Luka that this list "can't survive going second against Blood Angels". If Luka had been patient and used his pre-game move to shift his warriors into cover and built his command protocols around making overwatch and getting cover in the early game, I think he could've taken the game.
The moment that I hear any player openly state that they think Space Marines should always be a top tier Army and that they should always have an answer for any thing else that shows up on a table only reaffirms my level of disdain for Space Marines. By making that statement you just invalidate on a competitive level people playing anything but Space Marines. And I think that philosophy is both boring and insulting and extremely unattractive to players who want to do something outside the Imperium. Now all that being said, this is still one of my favorite YouTube channels to watch battle reports. You guys do an excellent job of putting them together and making them entertaining. But as a 20-year xenos player I absolutely hate Space Marines and like a lot of other players have gotten completely sick of the constant new releases that focus on the Imperium of man and ignore so many other factions.
I thought treasure of the aeons secondary was only neutral objectives. Donβt have the book on hand so not positive.