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In spite of NVIDIA’s best efforts to coerce media into talking about DLSS and Ray Tracing, we’re doing it because we actually want to. Bad timing from NVIDIA. This is #Cyberpunk2077’s DLSS.
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In this content, we’re comparing the many types of DLSS for Cyberpunk 2077, using both an RTX 3080 and an RTX 2060 KO. We’ll also briefly talk about FidelityFX and CAS. The goal of DLSS isn’t to increase the quality past native resolution, but rather to get to a point of “good enough” that it’s actually viable to run higher settings elsewhere. In some cases, the quality does actually exceed native resolution, and impressively so; at the same time, we also found a few spots where DLSS makes things worse in Cyberpunk’s Night City. Overall, it’s improved significantly since the Battlefield V vaseline smear and the Final Fantasy XV flickering mess, and DLSS is actually a usable feature that provides meaningful uplift. In this content, our objective is to show you the actual qualitative differences. We also propose a few blind tests.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – If Steve Blinks, NVIDIA is Holding Him Hostage
05:21 – Blind Comparisons
06:34 – Methodology
07:16 – Detail Loss & Upscaling Amounts
08:54 – Comparison Shots & Chromatic Aberration, Film Grain, DOF
09:54 – Shot 1 – DLSS Performance, Ultra Performance, Quality, vs. Off
10:40 – Broken DLSS in Some Areas Useful for Validation
11:10 – Pixel Counting to Prove the Resolution
12:10 – NVIDIA’s Unfortunate Email Timing
13:53 – Shot 2 – Subtle Differences, On vs. Off Comparisons
14:19 – DLSS Sometimes is Better Than Native Resolution, But…
15:52 – Ghosting Caused by Temporal Anti-Aliasing
16:31 – Shot 3 – Broken Lighting Bug, Texture Detail Loss
17:54 – Shot 4 & 5 – DLSS Easily Noticed in Flora
18:31 – Shot 6 & 7 – On vs. Off Flickering & Unexpected Bonuses
19:07 – Shot 8 – Final DLSS Impact
19:25 – The NVIDIA Money Hand
20:00 – Conclusion, Our Thoughts, & Blind Comparison Recap
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Host, Additional Reporting: Steve Burke
Editorial, Testing: Patrick Lathan
Video: Keegan Gallick, Andrew Coleman
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That intro… I'm still laughing!
And it has been two days!
Interestingly, in the side by side comparison image at 5:50, on my 1440P Monitor, while C and A were obvious and dramatic outliers, the other three were hard to differentiate, but I ultimately chose the reverse order. I gave a slight edge to E (Performance), thinking it might have been a littler sharper in places, and identified D (Quality) as slightly more blurry in the details. Thinking about upsampling images for graphics, this might actually make sense for still images: 1440 -> 2160 is 2:3 so it requires weird pixel mapping but the other two are both just upscaling by x2 or x3. On the other hand, it's also a 4k screen shot zoomed in by some factor for a 4k video (hopefully 200%?), then resampled to 1440p, and compressed for YT, so a 1:1 or 2:1 zoom on the actual screenshots would be a better comparison.
11:32 or so.
I apologize deeply, but on my 6.26" 720×1520 resolution screen, left 08 looks clearly and not exactly the same as the 08 on the right side of the screen.
What about DLSS 2.1?
Great content. This is what I wanted to know: should I be using 4K performance DLSS or 1440p quality to play this and Watch Dogs Legion. This video came the closest to answering that question for me. And if I go study those blind comparisons a bit longer then I'll have my answer.
On my RTX 2070 Super, DLSS does absolutely nothing when it comes to framerate and just makes the game look less sharp. Hope this gets fixed soon.
Didn't guess what type of DLSS it was, but got that C wasn't DLSS, it looked the sharpest so figured it must have been the native.
Feelin' cute, might shill for dat big NV payday. Micky D's dollah menu better watch out! 😋
That was like a death of a thousand cuts for Nvidia
Love your humor! 🤣 Amazing video as always.
"and the surfaces of the garbage bin which is where nVidia left its ethics."
– Wait a minute, since when did nVidia have ethics?!
You could either hate or love Nvidia but their hardware with DLSS is miles away compared to AMD's counterpart.
The intro was top notch.
Goddamn these kind of reviews are golden! xD
At https://youtu.be/zUVhfD3jpFE?t=148 it's clearly visible that 'dlss off' has more detail, not the otherwise. The same way I distinguish sharpness on dslr raw files.
The part with dlss feels better in this case but it's overall detail is dimmed by rendering to smaller texture and applying downsampling, which in turn is called blur 🙂
haha nicely done nvidia !
Omg the constant jabs at Nvidia got me every time! 😂
DLSS Balanced seems to be the sweet spot. Not much different looking then quality but with a 10-15% better performance then the quality setting. Also, it still renders at 1440p at 4k. If you use digital foundries optimized settings with DLSS and ray tracing it's a pretty smooth experience. I won't say it runs well because we all know that isn't true but at least FPS won't be a problem.
19:26
13:30 maximum burn
19:25 Solid evidence that Steve is a cheap date.
Considering that a heat gun is basically a souped-up hairdryer, it makes sense that someone would be able to use it to keep Steve Hostage.
That cold open tho!
😂 another awesome review, honest as always. Loved the receiving money scene, I shouldn't eat when I watch Steve. Thanks for your hard work and amazing content.
nvidia wants more cover of dlss they got it but not from the 1 channel they really want to play around with. who would have thought to use 3×3 pixels box to confirm a resolution….
Patches every day? Its had 1 patch so far and its been out 8 days… A second patch is coming 'soon' they say.
15:55 You can actually disable TAA using config file "Cyberpunk 2077/Engine/Config/Base" General.ini adding following lines:
[Developer/FeatureToggles]
Antialiasing = 0
AntialiasingSuppressed = 1
Great explanation! I loved all the digs you got in, both spoken and otherwise at Nvidia during this video!!!
Tons of DIGS!!
The solid hyacinth moberly attempt because zipper topologically jam absent a actually badger. comfortable, accidental story
Huge props to the software engineers that made DLSS – they did a great job. Too bad the marketing/PR side of the business is full of toxic wankers.
I love Jay and I love Linus but when I want meat and potato cold hard un biased facts I come to GN and good old Steve. Always down to brass tac and a no bs approach. Thankyou all of you for what you do and offer for all of us in the PC and gaming community. much love and respect guys seriously keep it up!
How am I capable to use DLSS with 1070 and no ray tracyng not that I want to. But is seems what DLSS really does is lower the resolution. Fun fact, when I change the "resolution" in the game it seems like it uses DLSS, since my monitor running in 1080p and running the game at 720p in Fullscreen does not switch the resolution at all to 720p….
Fuck it, so in order for Raytracing to work all we have to do is lower down our resolution in to obismo, great job nVidia.
I don't understand why you are spending so much time benchmarking 4k ultra performance mode DLSS when nobody uses that. You said yourself it was not intended to be used yet so many of your comparison shots to show flaws in DLSS are using it. WTF steve.
I love you guys.
damn, the poker face, i almost died
On a 2080 at 1440p, dlss on blanced, some sharpening from the nvidia panel to get a bit more clarity, lowered cascaded shadow and remove motion blur and film grain and the game can run in ultra with full rtx.
I would be totally unable to run it that way without dlss. I would say it's now a game changer setting.
that intro…. HAHAHAHAH i almost fell of my chair laughing
The way it meant to be DLSSED!!!
(Angry nVidia letter will follow soon…)
omg that intro 💀💀
all this drama, lol
FPS….das einzige was wirklich zählt, sind FPS.
Anstatt Leute zu erpressen, sollten die xxxxxxxxxxxx bei NVDIA mal ihren ARSCH bewegen und Karten produzieren.
Lol looks like comparing smartphone camera's.
In the blind comparison, I could tell C looked the best followed by D, and the rest all looked noticeably worse. Not sure if it's placebo or not, but I feel that scenes in motion are more noticeable with DLSS than static images – perhaps due to the ghosting effect? Nevertheless, 40% performance gain for a negligible loss in detail using DLSS Quality is tempting enough that I may give it another go, despite being very close to a steady 60 FPS without it.
13:31 OUCH
If theres one thing good about the game, its the DLSS implementation
Quesion: Will there be another driver update for nvidia that might improve the DLSS or is this already the "final" form? :/
The mention of CAS made me wonder what kind of effect that has on the images.
9:35 the sample [mis]captioned Ultra Performance DLSS is clearly sharper than the sample [mis]captioned Performance DLSS, see most notably "CHINA" … lay of the booze, editor 😐
(the progressively unnerving and evidently self-confusing switcheroo between ascending and descending order of DLSS quality levels further contributes to both above implied assumptions)
the puns are starting to become annoying af , sound like the avrage reddit fanboy raging on .