Ganyu is the new HIGHEST DPS CEILING CARRY in Genshin Impact. She simply does more DPS as a Main DPS than any other Carry in the game currently. However Ganyu’s Support Power is aight, it’s not the best in Genshin, but it’s fairly strong.
HOWEVER the difference in power between Ganyu as a Main DPS and as a Burst Support (Sub DPS) is MASSIVE and we do not consider her worth pulling for if ALL you want is a new Cryo Supports.
If you want to fully utilize Ganyu in Genshin then you WANT to run her as a Charge Attack Carry in either reverse melt teams or in freeze teams.
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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro
00:58 – Ganyu is a CARRY NOT A SUPPORT
01:51 – Ganyu is not Pulling if you ONLY want a Support
02:48 – How Ganyu’s Ult Works
06:05 – Why Ganyu is SUCH A STRONK CARRY
07:55 – Ganyu is VERY worth Hyperinvesting in
10:49 – HOWEVER NOTHING IS FUTURE PROOFED
11:06 – Ganyu’s Weapons
13:01 – Ganyu’s 2 Carry Styles
13:22 – Melt Shotganyu
15:28 – Freeze Ganyu
17:19 – Why Venti is SO GUD with Ganyu
18:56 – So Why do I not think EVERYONE should pull for Ganyu?
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Links for this video:
Aerylle’s Hyperinvested FTP Ganyu test: https://youtu.be/ut86yhY-_KI
Keqmain’s Ganyu Early Thoughts Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uBGzM8fdnZo15tl795xhFgIVjQzchIPw9thQxup3U8I/edit#
Robin’s Ganyu sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pYDZpKgnF-8aRdfKfD_pYRnKKAabgboO1WuxjPmcZO8/htmlview?pru=AAABdvQdJu0*iXHhfkdquhJEnJ7jXbd-gw#gid=0
Zhakarov’s Ganyu vs other Carry’s sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAz3jx4x1ThWED8XWg8GKIf73RjPrZrnSukYZUCSRU8/edit#gid=1055317924
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Sorry it took so long to get this video out, it has been a rough week.
Let us know what you think of Ganyu in the comments!
So far for the Ganyu vids we have slated we're looking at:
Animation Cancel Guide
Melt Shotganyu Guide
Freeze Ganyu Guide
Ganyu Support's issues and niches (with more in depth Ult explanation)
For that weapon when the charged shots crit dose it active the passive to get 6 energy
Thanks for clarifying the Amos bow and her charge attack.
Thanks for sharing!
Am i the only one who made his every character as dps(except Barbara 🤣🤣)
Did i just hear, Your lie in april music at the beginning
Oho i'm so lucky, i have cocogoat in my team
i relate to the headshots only mentality so much as an ex-fps player
Whats your opinion on the Battlepass bow? Is it really not comparable to the blackcliff and crecent?
Just wanted to ask if xialing is also good to support Ganyu even if she isnt on a4?
Wrong her charge attack aoe does headshot damage
I tried using prototype weapon and shot the ground and the aoe shot the enemy from above and it hit the head and i got the weapon buff
Is leveling to 90 not worth it even if you take level suppression into consideration?
I did a rando 10 pull and got keqing on the ganyu banner, i main razor and am wondering if i should invest in keqing?
Sorry but I don't think it works like you think it does. You have off field everything except her Charged Shots, which with triggering melt do about 50k dmg. However a Diluc with his full combo does about 40k himself and he can do about 100-150k dmg with melt on his Ult which he can use 2x in 15 sec. while Ganyu can only Ult once in 15 sec. So let's say we don't think about her Ult and her Skill because she can use it off field and it doesn't matter, she does maybe with every shot 50k when triggering melt which is about 300k dmg in 12 sec. and of course her skill and ult do dmg to but not just for her. Diluc on the other hand does alone with his Ult almost exact the same amount of dmg, which would be depending on your Diluc 200-300k dmg, with Auto Attacks he would do about 100k with 2x using his Skill and then the dmg of Ganyu is also benefiting him because she doesn't need to be on the field
Well I didn’t see this until after I pulled her, but I only want her as a support for my main DPS Childe. Any recommendation on a weapon for this? Maybe Viridescent Hunt, with a 4-piece Noblesse?
Me without a ganyu:
yes
I was hyped for her but as a mobile genshin player she is not ideal as for mobile player .she is not good for me .
its a honor and very motivational to have such good character as only a week old F2P in a game… Meanwhile you need to play for years to achieve equivalent of ganyu in most other games for free. Truly a F2P friendly game.
Have you looked into synergy with Mona's Omen buff? I read that it's possible to expand the duration of it in freeze builds. Would that be something good to take into account?
Really awesome video with lots of info 🙂
May i ask which is better? c6 Ganyu or c6 Diluc?
Watching this after pulling Ganyu, feels good 🙂
So glad they made her a limited banner character instead of a normal banner one. She is my most favourite character to play so far, and will likely stay that way for a long time.
Mona has a cool combo with Ganyu with the Omen debuff.
The freeze actually increases the Omen by not popping the bubble, which I would contend to having mona being the best hydro support. You just need a lot of energy recharge, so real commitment to this idea is running favonius bow and/or ER goblet for that constant burst.
they should have seperate the aim mode and charge shot for archer, us mobile player would really appreciate that
I still run her as sub-dps support with Stringless. I use her E and Q and switch out and I find this more fun than charge shots which I might miss.
I mean she is waifu material, I already interest to her since she appeared in zhongli story. So I pulled her and max everything on her before I really know her true potential just because she is waifu. And I have no regret anymore.
Would be nice if aiming makes your character at least slightly transparent and doesn't lock aiming sensitivity and camera angle options, but I think that the cancelling options makes her slightly less brain dead/gank to play. I might actually have to pull her now. RIP gems.
Bow Characters have always hurt Mobile Players and I am sad for having pulled her accidentally.
Do you plan make videos about melt and freeze Ganyu? 1.3 is comming.
Is the battle pass bow a viable option for ganyu?
French persons are so lucky to have youtubers like Xeleko, that will take the fake math Jinjinx usually updates, and then correct it and turn it into actual serious math
Can you test ganyu without crit rate artifact and with it bro ? Bc her passive make 25% crit rate
Bennet is a great support, but am I the only one that dislikes his potential as Sub DPS? As someone who plays an Electro main he is simply too slow and limited for that as well as needing to be in the field for doing so
I'll be honest here the only good element for aura application that can enable Klee's reactions are Electro characters together with a SUCCrose or Venti. She simply delivers far to many pyro attacks for any other element to keep up with. Best thing about her is the AOE damage ensuring multiple Overloads happening at the same time.
Such showcases need an "all def artifacts" section, because that's the only ones that domain produces.
19:50 , well, in Overwatch there is also different sensetiveties, but never really bothered me, so I guess this is personal thing. Tho shots in Genshins feels bad anyway.
She doesn't invalidate kaeya dps?
I got level 90 Amos from a random standard wish and 80/90 Ganyu, but for the love of god I don't know how to build her. I can go like Venti Jean Xiangling for the melt comp, but I don't have any Cryo% or crit rate/dmg troupe 5 stars, so I can only choose 2 blizzard/2 glad and I don't really dig the freeze comp that much. Pairing Xinqiu with her feels weird for me and I can't do Barbara because I already got Diona support for the cryo resonance.
What build did you guys go for/like the most?
Ganyu,Xingqiu,Noelle,Albedo…Shatter baby!!
You really have to measure those "howevers" your video was awesome but expanding your vocabulary will give your content a higher quality.
"Ganyu's 60 energy, 10 meter radius, 1.5 second ice shard falling area, 100% uptime, cryo application is on par with Kaeya's 6 sec cooldown E and his 0.5 meter radius, 7 second off cooldown guarantee ice shard ultimate"
"Diluc is easier to play than Ganyu, so don't pull Ganyu, just pull Diluc"
My god theory crafters are so blind to practical gameplay.