We used to recommend that you not level your carries past Lvl 60/70 A4, T6, +16 artifacts until the rest of your supports are leveled and geared as well. However updated Resin Math shows this is not the case in Genshin Impact.
We were wrong.
Thanks to Zakharov’s deep dive into damage gain per resin invested, we now know the proper levels of investment you should have on your carries in order to max your Best Team’s DPS in Genshin Impact. The general stopping point for regular carries like Keqing’s builds is at lvl 70/80 A5, Talent 8s, and +20 gear. And for Hypercarries like Ganyu, Diluc, Hu Tao, Xiao, and Razor you actually want to stop at lvl 80/90 A6, Talent 9-10s, and +20 Gear!
After your carries are this invested you start focusing on leveling your high burst damage supports/sub dps. The only exception to this are 2 characters you want to level sooner: Venti and Bennett. They are the 2 supports so strong you want to prioritize at least getting them to +16 gear and A4 T6.
The reasons why you want to invest SO heavily into your carries in genshin impact before investing in ANYONE past the bare minimum is because it turns out that Resin spent to damage gains is pretty close to linear. It drops off a bit at the Ascension 6 level of investment by ~25% but it maintains this strong scaling because any of the new more expensive multipliers are multiplying on a higher base value.
However if it was just linear scaling, it’d be better to spread investment.
Howeverever, carries deal around 30%+ of your genshin team’s damage.
And Hyper carries deal well over 50%.
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00:00 – Intro
00:14 – Start of the video
01:11 – TL;DR
03:20 – Reading over Zakharov’s Reddit Post
12:17 – Carry’s Dmg Gain per Resin invested
15:22 – How much DMG a Carry deals in a team
18:08 – HYPERCARRIES DEAL SO MUCH OF YOUR TEAM’S DMG
19:37 – Team Comp DMG Split Visuals
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We're sorry again for taking so long to get this updated Resin Math video out. We wish we could have gotten this out sooner but it just wasn't possible.
Thank you again to Zakharov for the updated calculations on how you should invest in your teams <3
Let us know which teams you're planning on building up with these new recommendations in the comments!
Yea no shit lol
Apologems incoming 🙂
Much <3 Jinx. Keep it up!
We need more people willing to do these kinds of video to be honest. As opposed to "GaNyU iS sTiLl NoT sUpPoSeD tO bE a CaRrY sHe'S sUpPoRt"
And this is why I don't watch people who try to convince you to follow
This will gonna help me to built up my remaining support. For pass month, I was focus of my multiple main DPS. But when I challenge the Spiral Abyss, there in no problem in my dual DPS unit in my team but the one who failing me is my supports. So here are my hyper carrie:
Hu Tao with Fishl; Keqing with Xinyan. They are my heaviest dmg dealers. Barbara is my support from the start. I want to built up are Chungyun, Xinqiu, and Bennett. If I made the optimal. I will beat Spiral Abys. But glad that I don't need to max them up.
I'll just add that since Zhongli gets to double dip for HP stat, he benefits a bit more than all the other 80/90 listed to go up to 85 or 90. One of the only heroes you can 'max' safely for the resin spent.
who the flying fuck is alfredo
Could the "Howevers" hint a return to some good ole "Monster Hunting"?
I knew it lol, I always questioned the old recommendation of level 60/70 carries but people didn't listen to me T_T
It's too late for me, with 5 carries with Lvl 80
What kind of stats am i aiming for xiangling in a childe-xiangling team comp ?
Yangu, my favorite carachter
when you hate math but you watch Jinx video till the end:
"i'm a genius now"
Yo imma out!! Goodluck to you guys in your future vids.
i kinda already new +20 ing artifacts was a good call, since the only way to improve your stats without RNG based grinding always was artifact base stats and Character levels/ascensions (also talents). Thats also why most of my characters are already 70+ or even 80+ for my carries.
Wait so if you run Childe/Xingliang, the fire bear lady should get the priority for investment?
Which would be better, Razor main dps or Bennet main dps?
The traps won't matter anymore once you realise the only thing you can do in genshin now is to level your characters up or mindlessly Farm shit artifacts.
When you have a great artifact with a 50% chance at crit rate/dmg it's a no brainer to try for 20. An extra 5% crit rate goes a long way towards that 50%+ goal
I stopped taking you guys seriously after watching a guy 9⭐ Flr 12 with just 3* Weapons.
Finally!
I always got negative posters calling me stupid in my earlier guides. Thank you guys.
Diluc is horrible… But people are not prepared for this conversation
Doing massive damage doesn’t means carry. If someone says that he is noob…. sadge like ganyu is not carry. You can build ganyu doing massive charge damage doesn’t means she is carry. Putting everythings in carry just because of doing damage ….. Omegalol…. seems like they dont know what carry means…
HowevereverEVER…
If I'm 60/70 with my carry and don't have boss talent mats, should I
A. Level to 70/70
B. Ascend carry anyways
C. Work on sub DPS until boss mats drop
I'd infer A is correct based off your explanation but I want to be sure
+20 artifacts were never traps ur just dumb 🙂
I'm really chocked people are still in this scam under a game skin. Oh well.. choices
see this is why we can't take anyone words as the holy bible, not even Jinx and Tuner
Well I levelled my Keqing and Ningguang to 80/90 😀
Hi Jinx&Tuner, I would like to ask what's level should the weapon be for the supports have ? Until what level should i stop leveling the weapon ? Thanks!
tbh how many people actually care about maximising dps or being so try hard in the game, i think its not only me here, i just like to look at them making so many complicated calcs'
Just follow your heart, this game is easy
It's weird, on the reddit post, people are complaining that Jinx didn't do this sooner.. Yet you talked about this on Twitter… I don't get how there are expectations like this in certain parts of the community. I get this is one of the larger maths channels out there, but the uploads schedules and priorities are up to the individual, not the viewer… And certainly not the one who is salty when it happens, but "not soon enough" 😐 That really surprised me.
This is because the current Spiral Abyss is an even bigger DPS check now.
Snaps, I really appreciate this! Thank you and Zakharov for the information!
Tectone said your a piece of sheet
I love how you guys are so dedicated to these guides that you'll make it very clear when you make a mistake. The humility for the sake of accurate information puts this channel above most video game guide channels.
"Yangu"? XD NICE.
as a future childe haver, it makes me so glad that he's kinda special because i'm biased to fischl anyways and would love to max her out before anyone else
A5 and A6 means?
Keqing needs a lot of help. 🙁
Whether or not its a trap, the advice of staying at +16 and 60/70 was still very useful. I have decent to good artifacts to put on all the characters I use, and every character in the game is lvl 60-70 with lvl 6 talents and i can 9* floor 12 with enough focus.
I dont like to sit on one or two sets of characters so having the ability to use anyone i want at any time and in anyway i want made the game much more fun for me.
Can you set up a Liberapay for donations? They have some of the lowest fees and aren't a for-profit platform.
Mhm…was pretty sure you were off base with just how much damage people were netting from proper artifacts and A6 on carries.