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Reports have been circulating that Control Ultimate Edition PS5 edition is a staggering 40% smaller than the Xbox Series X version. Is this the Playstation 5 Kraken compression at work? Such a huge difference in file size is definitely worth examining, so we discuss exactly how the PS5 compression tech works, and examine if it could be the cause of the difference in file size in Control Ultimate Edition.
The SSD decompression tech, as well as the read and write speed is one of the biggest features of both the PS5 and XSX, but is it really the reason for this huge disparity?
Sony have also revealed that the PS5 is selling at a loss, at least so far, which is fairly expected at the start of a next generation of console. As production of the hardware specs of the Playstation 5 (as well as the Xbox Series X for Microsoft) the amount of loss they are making on the next gen consoles will diminish.
We also have a small update for AMD’s RX 6700 XT, the upcoming mid range RDNA 2 GPU, and this time the leak confirms some details a bout the specifications of the graphics card. So how can we expect it to fare against Nvidia’s RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3060?
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User: Is Kraken compression at work?
Paul: Let me ramble one hour about how compression works.
User: OK, thanks for stealing my time and letting me sit through 100 commercials by feeding me artificial information i already know, but could you now please answer the question? Is Kraken compression at work?
Paul: Maybe. Kthxbyefornow.
PS5 is teh powah
Man I've just bought an overpriced xbox series x,ps5 is such a good machine! Hope to start seeing some of the custom features being used in xbox games soon 🙄
The pirate scene, which Epic exclusivity drove me back to, has been using such high ratio compression for some time now. Nice to see it actually enter hardware design.
Well. I have 35+ games installed on my ps5 and still have 100gb of free space! Beats my pc hardrive space.
Simple answer most likely: Xbox version has higher resolution textures included.
The extra data is for the upcoming directML tools.
paul look into CompactGUI its a compression tool for pc games this little tool makes loading ionto games much faster than normal more like the ps5 over the xsx
its not the compression its the double speed of the SSD wich allows less repetition of assets, and PC has to adapt to XSX speed because they are the same version so that is XSX limit not PCs
Paul is not on camera, because his hair have revolted.
About the Oddle thing, thats exactly what I thought, the site that reported on it, "playstation universe" doesn't have any source for it.
all consoles sell at a loss upon release…ever since I can remember.(everything after the 2600 I think)…that's never been where the money is made.
how can we compare to Xsx when xsx does not use its compression tech for the moment?
Man it’s funny how Series X is having so many issues out the gate… MS seriously was not ready for a new gen of consoles…
Slower SSD and it’s at the HARDWARE level, split pool of RAM, trying to make up for the lackluster off-the-shelf SSD with software lol… wtf were they thinking??
Meanwhile, PS5 is a fucking masterpiece of engineering. And Sony is already filing patents for a dual GPU in their next console! So, they’ve already got the data pipeline solved which will carry the PS5 into the next 5-7 years. Then they’ll most likely keep that base and engineer a dual GPU for the next console… damn…
I’d say it’s game over for Xbox!
If it was compression all ps5 games would of been significantly reduced so obv not that
I'm confused. Doesn't the PS4 have hardware decompression for zlib? Wikipedia says it's only for data off of the blu ray disc but other sources are more ambiguous…
Only problem with console if you can get one at cost with out being sold out by bots.
Besides the higher compression ratio of Kraken it would also speed up loading by at least x2. Doesn't make sense to compress with Kraken and then not use the HW decompressor. But, yet, the loading times of the PS5 and XSX is basically identically. So, I agree, that's not Kraken.
Control is on gamepass but it is not the ultimate edition so you don't get the next gen version of it
Having fast SSD + iO is all well and good, but ultimately what the visuals look like will depend on the GPU, its the GPU that has to render all the polygons and effects, So having very high resolution textures is great, lighting, physics, polycount and effects have a bigger impact on overall visuals.
Lets be honest, who the f wants PS4 /Pro, I just want to get a Pro for collection while its still affordable
Sony should just go ahead and buy Rad Game Tools. They should do it before one of their competitors scoops them up.
Edit: Nevermind, it was just bought by Epic about a month ago.
As Richard Geldreich said to me on Twitter. Kracken and oodle just can’t do what bcpack and sfs does. It’s great, but it’s just not hitting what those are. He also said in a few years time, almost every company will see their potential. Sorry to burst your bubble
Your reasons why Series X file sizes are larger are nuts. Why did they have all this hullabaloo about smart delivery and control Ultimate will literally come with multiple versions of the game in one download? That delivery doesn't sound so smart to me.
Either control is using Oodle Kraken or Remedy had cut down on duplicate data on PS5. No other version of Control Ultimate Edition is that small, this size difference looks to be hardware dependant. It could be Remedy making a slip up and somehow shipping Series X version with Series S. I don't buy that but strange things have happened, like the powerful Series X struggling to match the weaker PS5 in every multiplat game released since launch. So who knows what crazy went on there, only thing I see is PS5 guys get a game that eats less storage space.
I’m going to get a PS5; can play Xbox games on my PC. But the hype of these features is obscene. File size and storage on PS5 is ridiculous. When most games are smaller etc., we can have a conversation. Magical SSD (that’s barely faster than Series X), Tempest audio (that no one can actually hear unless your using headphones which defeats the purpose, now this. Just pump consoles out.
Yes i sure its good but it's early days in the new systems but does it make the game better
I'm still trying to understand why is it matter if it's bigger on the Xbox series X smaller on the PlayStation 5 does both systems use different compression techniques
Kraken is phenomenal and Sony already patented another advantage that would allow them to shrink files even more and help developers release their games as smaller file sizes without any quality loss.
xbox cant keep up only ps5 does innovative stuff first its the controller then it runs 3rd party games better now its using better compression xbox just gotta hold the L
notice they stopped using the "worlds most powerful console" slogan to "the worlds most powerful xbox" also we all know playsation got the better 1st party games througout history in graphics and gameplay, xbox best chance was the 360 era now they look free to sony its gonna be 2 console gen straight they keep gettin bent over and spanked by daddy sony
that's really impressive. I'm still very disappointed in Sony not releasing compatible m.2 drives 3 months on
ps5 are at a loss because they built a beast and they make there customers happy, unlike xbox they build a shoe box and charge £450 🤣🤣😂 lol all the xbox fanboys talking radeon 2 and how much great memory they got all left the building
Is anyone else getting stuck on ritual division when trying to cleanse the room? On ps5
What about BC pack? Isn’t this supposed to be even better? According to MS dudes anyway they were saying
It‘s not the Kraken Compression. It‘s the deduplication Cerny mentioned at The Road to PS4. You do not need to place particular object/texture data multiple times on the drive to improve streaming speeds. The SSD does not need that.
Sony cant go by the numbers of ps5 shipped right now because only people getting them is scalpers and they dont purchases games so sonys loseing tons of money and control on ps5 is smaller because ps5 is using kraken and Microsoft
has not started use there velocity architecture yet because its not finshed so xbox games will get smaller once there software is finished i think its funny how all the playstation fanboys keep putting everything they can online to try and
Say ps5 does better because right now only thing its doing better is smaller games until v bpack is finshed they it wont doing anything better xbox is running games at 20% better they ps5 now and its just goi
going to get worse as the finsh there software that why sony is working on
Ps5 pro because they no
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So looks better, runs better and is better compression for small size is win all around and knowing this is in its infancy is awesome when it will just get better from here on out.
Tried Control on game pass and had to buy on it Steam I liked it so much. Game pass doesn’t allow you to access the exe so I couldn’t run Reshade and other plugins.
I saw people's comments on youtube about this guy Dumpsdark on telegram…. I got my own PS5 from him yesterday
Very cool tech if PS5 is truly doing this
This is probably not even full kraken, Sony got license for other kraken software earlier this year.
So devs still haven’t had enough time to work on it.
An this is why I think that Hitman 3 runs on Back-compat full mode on XSX:PS5. It is 100gb.
It is not taking full advantage of the hardware on both Series X and PS5. But it is using the best possible BC abilities on both.
And we know that Series X handles BC better.
I mean compression techniques are interesting sure but, what gives if the file size is smaller? DF already proved that Series X is outperforming the PS5 so 🤷♂️
If anybody listen to ( the genius) mark cerny nobody would be surprised. Thats all things he said bevor the launch. And everybidy :
Ohh what he said? Ps5 is powerfull with this gpu/cpu/………..?!?! What a freaky guy!
Lol PS5 sells at a loss.