Shadowlands Should You Main Affliction Warlock!?

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Shadowlands Should You Main Affliction Warlock!?

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  3. soul rot is the most fun out of the four. the kyrian is just too huge though. works with mastery? yes cd reset? yes 5 shards? yes its kyrian. so i switched to demo went necrolord, logged off. now i main a boomkin.

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  5. I wonder if there will be one of these for feral. Guess anyone interested in a stealth dpser would be dumb to not go with a sub rogue tho… thanks for always putting up great videos!

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  9. For PvE – maybe
    For PvP – hell no lol. Dot classes suck now. At least boomies have starsurge and spriests have void torrent. By the time your dots tick once you will eat 8k templars verdict, 12k aimed shot or 4x5k lavabursts to the face.

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  10. I mained lock since mop and went dh and destro in legion and shadowlands I’ve come back to aff lock and loving it feels like it has power again and as you said the lost abilities coming back

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  14. Warlocks are currently doing dogshit tier dps in dungeons. We'll see what happens when they get gear, but at the moment I'd rather take a vengeance demon hunter than an afflock to anything pve related.

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  16. Just a note: When you use "Summon Darkglare", it will also increase the duration by "Soul Rot" by 8 seconds like all the other dots. "Soul Rot" usually lasts 8 seconds. This means, that using "Summon Darkglare" with Soul Rot up will double the duration.

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  18. I mean, playing a lock now is a terrible experience. It's true that nightfae+portals+slow will help you kite melee mong cleaves for a while before your "inevitable demise", but it does nothing to getting oneshot in a stun. Sub rogues, rets, ferals, etc. They will just blow your poor cloth wearing teeny tiny % max hp shield relying warlock to shreds, even through your only defensive CD that has a cooldown equal to bubble.

    Another issue is that while yes, you can technically get top damage done in a BG if the enemies don't just kill you in 0.2seconds… the damage is essentially meaningless. It's very steady chip damage on multiple enemies, easily healed through by any healer or even one offhealer. It doesn't feel like you're creating any pressure, even if you're top on the damage meters. This is still the IDEAL scenario where you get to do as you please, the usual scenario is 2+ melee tunneling you to dust, or a hunter just getting one or two crits with aimedshot+arcaneshot+killshot combo, from a distance that's completely out of your reach to even counterplay.

    In arenas you do have a purpose though. You're there to protect the valuable debuffs of actually useful classes. Shadowpriests, ele shamans, and even venthyr mages will coom when healers can't dispel their actually useful debuffs without exploding and getting a silence. You are also there to provide these specs with a reliable and braindead slow. But your gameplay will revolve around:
    1. putting corruption on things
    2. trying your very hardest to set up windows where u get a UA on a key target
    3. running the f*ck away from the whole enemy team trying to bash your squishy little dome in

    The reason this isn't very fun in my opinion, is that I don't feel like I'm really doing anything. No team at least above 2k rating will let an aff lock free cast. There are just so many factors to why they should be THE target. You can shut down like 90% of their effective damage with interrupts and pressure in general, they are paper and very mana consuming to heal, they have limited mobility (long CDs they have to save for your burst) so you have high uptime on them compared to a mage for example, they lack any real defensive CDs that provide reasonable value on a reasonable CD. You just get them in a stun and burst-> they die.

    So if you wanna main a lock in S1 of shadowlands, be prepared to: take a LOT of damage, die a lot with nothing you could have done, feel like you tickle the enemies with very meaningless meter pad damage, still be very wanted for certain comps as you provide 2 useful things (neither of them are very "fun" gameplay in my opinon), and on top of that all still get no sympathy on because "destro was op at that one point and it was cool to hate them".

    If you like: actual dot pressure, never dying, having lots of instant casts of high value, not feeling useless, etc.
    Play a shadowpriest. It's an affliction lock that's better at EVERYTHING except slows and dispel protection.
    You have insane dot pressure with very convenient application methods, you have insane burst with instant casts, you have the best defensive CDs, you have stupid amounts of self healing and offhealing, and you have a ranged stun+silence combo to make sure things don't play against you.

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  21. I really like Affliction this expansion, it can be so much fun. Assuming that is I'm doing content where people don't explode things too fast obviously. In levelling dungeons it could be frustrating cuz by the time I set up everything on a particular pack and then finally got to the point of using rapture, it was already at 10% or less hp so yeah, just kill me please. Another issue is having to go Night Fae. The fantasy is just so bad for me.

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  26. aff is in a horrible state . it is straight up agony to play, the amount of hoops you have to jump through before you can start to deal damage in just silly. seed of corruption has more then 2 second cast then you roll agony on a few targets before UA, VT, soul rot or all before you can MR only at that point do you start to do damage. your dots do nothing they are just a buff to make your MR deal damage things are often dead before you get there. summon dark glair is really only used for the dot duration increase its a terrible cooldown since without it you have almost no window but it itself does nothing if you have to move during your window the moment has passed gg wait another 5 years before you have a window again. I haven't even mentioned shadows embrace which you would want a stack or two of on single target creating another hoop

    if things live long enough then you have problem 2 you have used your window and now you are out of shards and have to snipe shards with drain soul which can but fun but the gcd makes this more difficult then it should be keeping up all these dots is not possible it takes far to long spread your dots out. the shard generation issue opens up another problem its very likely one of the best legos for aff will be the most boring all it does is give increased soul shard gen ( for pvp the slow corruption you said in the video). aff in its current state does not function it needs alot of fixing to make it feel smooth

    it is time they admit that mop was the last time aff was fun and interesting there is nothing interesting in pressing 1,2,3,4,5 buttons that don't do anything just so you can press 6 five times in a row

    spinning plates is only fun if the plates themselves actually did something soul burn made for interesting choices soul swap let us actually skip the ramp up but now the ramp up is worse then ever and there is no skip

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  32. How can I not play Affliction? Easy, outside of MR, DoTs are freaking pathetically and laughably weak. Players are passively healing through Agony, Corruption and UA, all 3 stacked on a target, player in PvP literally heals through it passively. Thats how I chose not to play it. It sucks. Wanna see damage? Role Soul Rot with Destro. Quite Frankly, and I respect your level of game play, but you pro players that keep talking up how good Warlocks are, arent helping the class at all. Almost every other class is head and shoulders above us in PvP and many more than compete with us in PvE. Right now, in PvP, survivability is in the tank. Warlocks are an easy kill and with classes like Rogues, Hunters, Paladins, Feral….ALL 2 shotting us, yeah it sucks.

    I honestly wish you guys that are high profile would spend more time discussing our issues and how to make the class better than talking it up the way you do. It is not near as good as almost every melee class, and even some casters like SPriests.

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  36. I mean, what is wrong with the tank pet? It got 10k less hp then my WL got and it dies at every first or second mob inc ?!?!?! Is it bugged, or is the WL just a class to NOT PLAY SOLO in Shadowlands? Even Thorgast is pain in the… as a 190 geared Warlock ?!

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  37. I don't think that warlock is as bad as some people in the comments here are trying to say, but I do think there are far too many overtuned classes at the moment. Hopefully it'll be fixed with the heroic tuning.

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