Turns out, if we direct our feedback, they have no choice but to listen. PS3 and Vita games are safe, for now. But why did Sony make this call, and what does it mean going forward?
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I also wish companies would clarify when their disc-based games require an internet connection and active servers. I prefer the convenience of digital but buy physical on the "off chance" a game is censored or taken down. But Cyberpunk on PS4 doesn't seem to work without internet; it's a digital-only game on a disc.
It did………….For now. The only reason Jim Ryan is even listing to the backlash is because of the sales. Because of the deadline, people started buying games on the PS3 and Vita stores. It’s a fact that Jim Ryan doesn’t give two shits about old and classic games, he saw the sale numbers and changed his mind. Now none of this would be a problem if we could actually buy these games on the PS4 store.
I wish control of Playstation would get out of the hell pit that is California and return to the Japanese team. Nothing good ever happens in California.
This changes nothing
They are still going after Ps1 and Ps2 ROM sites despite having discontinued both consoles
And in exchange they released that pathetic psone classic
They are strongly against game preservation because everything they remove from the market is a potential future cashgrab as a remake, remaster or retro collection
Now we can add psp to the list
Probably a bunch of ppl rushed to buy games on those consoles and Sony saw that $$$ coming through. And that’s why they decided not to close ‘em.
At the moment this is a good win for those Sony players, although personally I couldnt give two sh-tes about Sony.
YES! Now the 10 people that wanted them can get them! yay!
A large part of the reason they backed off was that they realized just how many people would’ve been forever discouraged to make any digital purchases on their still functioning stores.
Algorimso was here
This kinda reminds me of how Microsoft backed off with the always online DRM feature of Xbox One when it was first revealed.
Did you say the PS4 and ps5 would stop working if you don't have it hooked up to the internet 😡 ???
Oh jesus move on this is such a non issue.
FYI to vid editor : Your audio has been very quiet compared to other videos on YT over the last few months. Up your gain just a tad.
Its a shame they arent fixing the PS5 supply situation.
Forcing all future Final Fantasy 7 Remake entries to be on PS5 only when some countries wont even be getting the console properly for 2-3 more years after this shortage is bloody stupid on both Sony and Squares part.
Call me cynical, but this entire scenario sounds like artificial scarcity and internally was probably referred to as a sale. What's really important that they haven't addressed is the DRM issue. But they know damned well that older games sell. Especially when part of a service bundle, but individual sales as well. Microsoft has demonstrated it. GoG has demonstrated it. Nintendo has demonstrated it. The emulation scene has demonstrated it. The indie "retro" game market has demonstrated it. It's not a huge portion of their sales, but it's a QoL feature that people expect and nostalgia is a strong marketing tool.
how this is a win . we should not give them credit for something they shouldn't have done in the first place .
FYI, the volume is so low compared to other videos, and when a commercial happens jump from the sound difference.
And now you can wait for the game press to write again "TOXIC GAMERS RRRRREEEEEEEE".
I really wish channels would make there videos louder. We can control the volume on our devices if we want it more quiet! It’s so hard to watch videos without headphones in a busy house with things always going on!
Have they nuked SF office and naughty dog? No? Dont care
Did sony do the right thing or was it about fear mongering to get cash from the ps3 stores?
But now what about the PS4 not being able to play physical games if the CMOS battery died and Sony’s servers have been shut down?
The backlash didn't work, the surge of desperate last-minute sales is what worked.
CDPR – Our Cyberpunk 2077 launch ruined our reputation!
Jim Ryan- Hey CDPR, hold my beer. Watch how a professional ruins a company.
Mark my words, this is a stay of execution at best. Ryan made his position on this very clear as he very publicly cast derisive shade on his own company's legacy, so it's not like the powers that be had a change of heart. This backpedaling was little more than their public relations VP crying out for damage control. Ryan knows that from a business standpoint, casual (mobile) gamers now dominate the gamer market and call the shots, so for him the clear choice was to let those retro gaming bridges burn. Sad, but expected. Just more money for me to divert to my GOG wallet.
I also suspect one other reason Sony back tracked. A class action lawsuit.
Jim Ryan is to Sony,
what Carlos Ghosn is to Nissan.
(5:16…) if all this is what we know of from the outside, imagine how much worse things are internally.
The original announcement made me go and spend over $100 in short order on my Vita so it worked….?
Backwards compatibility Sony, it's not rocket science come on! There are so many old games people would want to play.
Just because Sony cave to backlash doesn't mean their philosophy has changed. Jim Ryan doesn't believe in 'old' games, nor innovative experiences. He wants Sony to be the video game version of Hollywood, so that's exactly what you can expect moving forward.
I dont think they listened at all. People's discs becoming paperweights and their consoles bricks would constitute a class action lawsuit. I'm still gonna get my bigger hard drives and get what I want from the stores while buying physical discs from pawnshops when I can. If they ever stop working I'm suing, simple as that. There's no reason physical media should become useless if all the parts function. The cmos thing is just scummy at best and planned obsolescence DRM at worst.
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i gave away all my ps4 legal games and downloaded them illegally, now i can ignore drm problems with cmos bomb, same with my ps3. i dont waste space for bluray discs and i also dont support woke sony. and dont worry i will never buy ps5. ps4pro was a mistake already
This could have been planned. After reopening, the sales will shoot up.
Well I'm not going to lie it's only PlayStation and Nintendo that mistreats their digital games
Xbox or PC does not do it Well for now I put on Xbox my digital games is good I have to worry about the next CEO under Phil Spencer I don't think I have to worry about my digital games so I'm good for a couple years Lol now when the next CEO comes up that's when I have to worry
Is the PlayStation and Nintendo fans that has to worry
Yeah I can't purchase your game if you don't put it on Xbox trust me if you put it on Xbox I will buy it I hope it's not a turn base strategy game I don't mind turn base because I like Final Fantasy but strategy games I don't like
Yeah I do agree with you I do like PlayStation one and PlayStation 2 but that's about it
Don't count on them keeping it around, we need to start preserving them if they won't port them to the next generations of consoles or PCs.
My favorite videos from this channel are the deep dives into issues. I get why roundup vids are a thing but I just wanted to point out that these need to exist in our current environment of glossing over issues just to use some buzz words to generate some hits.