20 thoughts on “The Division 2 & Outriders [Someone Had To Make This Video] – Discussion”
I do respect your point of view, i respect your opinion 100%, but i wanna discuss some things i felt were kinda one sided:
1. Not everyone cares about realism, thats just a personal preference. Yes division has a realistic world, that is commendable, but in some cases not all games have to set in a realistic setting to get a edge over the division 2, it all lies in the fun gameplay and unique mechanics, and interesting story. If the game states its supposed to be realistic, then isnt, then yes thats bad because it breaks the immersion that the division once had. But outriders never claimed to be realistic, i think we can all clearly see that.
2. Saying the game has “no competition” is kinda baseless, as yes there arent too many great third person looter-shooters at the moment, but division 2 is amongst those very games. The game isnt horrible, i still find some elements enjoyable, but undoubtedly the game is worse than the first one, and its just sitting as a mediocre title with unique ideas that dont get fleshed out that well.
3. The developers and ubisoft clearly stopped caring about this game, thats the main thing that makes me upset. The communication is hardly there, and too many times they have done this. Even if outriders wont be that good, at the devs communicate with their fans and constantly update players on whats coming to the game.
Like i said i respect your opinion, and im a fan of your channel, but i do think division 2 is at a point where any good third person looter-shooter can rival it, because the very game that pioneered these unique mechanics in these future titles, arent even fleshing them out in their own game.
I played both division and destiny games, they did have a beta on Xbox preview. For Xbox Insiders for one week, last week. The game felt more like a RPG than both the divisions, but it did seem that there were just about the same amount of build diversity in in the game as division 2. I will say it did feel like destiny gameplay where most of the enemies rush you with a little bit of snipers chilling in the back. For all in all I would say it feels like I intensity battles when in combat. P. S. I only played about 10 hours.
Outsiders won't take the Division 2 players no matter what others may think or say. Bottom line is this, Massive releases another meaty DLC and it's game over. And yes, the video was engaging.
To me I love this Div2. But I would love to play something new if we aren't getting new content. I loved the # system before warlords and talent on all the gear. The game began to get boring when they limited us to only two Talents. It created metas that last forever. Outriders will take a bit of my time away from div2 to me the two are nothing alike. I hope outriders makes a class of its own.
I don't care about Outriders, i'm not saying it's a bad game, it just isn't my thing. And as i said before, i don't remember if it was here, hardcore players won't leave a game just because some ultra hyped game is released, just look at td2, gta online and truck sim community, just to name a few.
You mentioned how the Division has realism. When I started playing D1, I did some side by side views of New York in the game and google maps and I loved how things so simple as a sidewalk ramp, water hydrant, or a K-rail all matched.
I played the closed beta. The only things that these game have in common is that they are both looter shooters with a cover mechanic. Division is a games as service while Outriders is not. Outriders doesn't have pvp and based off the way the game plays it never should because the balancing of weapon and gear would never work correctly, just like how Division has problems balancing pvp. Secondly, you have to play aggressive or you will die. Hadn't had a game make me sweat in a while, especially once you progress in the world tiers and you meet enemies that can negate your abilities or use abilities just as strong as yours. Outriders uses a mod system that allows you to put any mod on any piece of equipment within that class, so legendary mods can be put on other legendary gear or lower level gear. Once you add that mod to your library, you have it forever. The story is good but nothing groundbreaking, but the narrative is there and you learn how things went to crap from talking to npc, not audio logs. Outriders doesn't have that realism factor like Division because they are set in different worlds with different stories. Once you understand how your builds work you will feel Godly. I'm talking about blood and guts and enemies running for cover, or bosses that will go toe to toe with you. Legendary weapons come with mods that are ridiculously powerful. Like imagine taking 2 of your favorite talents from an exotic and having it on a pistol, shotgun or whatever. The game will release fully packaged, with plans to release more content depending on how good the game does. This game is great, not revolutionary but better then the Division as it stands now. The grind is sensible and content can be adjusted to your playstyle and build diversity is amazing.
The reason we complain about certain details in Division 2 is because we know that it is a very very good game and we have very high expectations, especially after Div 1 and knowing what the devs are capable of. The stuff we complain about in Division 2 are all tiny details. Loot at other dev companies how far back they are. I have more than 4000 hours of play time in Division 2. I hope someday another game will make me spend 4000 hours in it. Outriders with those little generic creatures will def not be it. If This game will make me play 100 hours I will consider it a sucess definitely. Its very hard to make a multiplayer co op pve and pvp game like division with great graphics, hundreeds of weapons, hundreeds of gear, and many skills and huge character customization details where every little number that you spec into your build MATTERS. Look at what other companies are doing. Respect to Massive and Ubisoft for their effort.
I personally prefer settings that are not based on reality. Also, it’s important to know that Outriders is not a games as service like Division/Destiny. It’s probably more like a 3rd person Diablo with gears shooting/violence and Destiny’s armor/ui aesthetics. I actually enjoy the little bit of Division 2 that I played, but my friends never really got into it so I didn’t even make it through the campaign.
judging by that aim from a console player i really hope i dont run into too many controller users while playing outriders / nothing againts console its just controllers sucks for this kinds of games ( and for most other types of games )
I think the major difference between the division and outriders is the end game. The division recycles content for the end game just with harder difficulty. After a while that gets very boring. Also if what they say is true when outriders gets released it will be a full game not a half ass game with dlc content being released throughout the year. I use to be a division fan but they lost me once they started punishing players and fans for taking advantage of mistakes they made. They took no accountability for their mistakes. Hence why people say that the division devs donIt care about their game, I almost feel like they are there just to cash in a paycheck. I am hoping that once outriders comes out the player base for the division drops massively, so that the division devs and publisher realize they no longer have a monopoly on looter shooters. That way they will be forced to produce quality content and not the crap they have been putting out the past couple of years. If u watch most of the content creators play this game they aren’t really playing it for fun factor, they play it because there is nothing else. Doesn’t mean that the game is good, and the devs and publishers looks at the numbers and they assume that they are doing something right. They never change or make any valid attempt to make the game as good as it should have been.
Bro the division is broken the PVE broken the PVP even more broken the dark Zone brokens honestly I'll write his doesn't have to do much to get anything right to take players from the division 2 especially the PVE players of division
For Division 3, I’d remove the Health System and replace it with a Suppression/Awareness system similar to Brothers in Arms for engaging in more real feeling Firefights
I'm in the Division gang/cult and there's nothing out there as satisfying as the game. Variations of gear sets alone is a game in itself. I tried to quit and now I'm upgrading my SHD watch level after completing Manhunts. Its becoming easier and satisfying as you progress for a solo player like myself. Waiting for something to take the crown.
I agree with 1/2 of ur assessment homie as far gameplay and target audience and the dark zone have been dead for almost an ye now ur giving massive way too much credit than they deserve but ur right bout not knowing until we play outriders
I do respect your point of view, i respect your opinion 100%, but i wanna discuss some things i felt were kinda one sided:
1. Not everyone cares about realism, thats just a personal preference. Yes division has a realistic world, that is commendable, but in some cases not all games have to set in a realistic setting to get a edge over the division 2, it all lies in the fun gameplay and unique mechanics, and interesting story. If the game states its supposed to be realistic, then isnt, then yes thats bad because it breaks the immersion that the division once had. But outriders never claimed to be realistic, i think we can all clearly see that.
2. Saying the game has “no competition” is kinda baseless, as yes there arent too many great third person looter-shooters at the moment, but division 2 is amongst those very games. The game isnt horrible, i still find some elements enjoyable, but undoubtedly the game is worse than the first one, and its just sitting as a mediocre title with unique ideas that dont get fleshed out that well.
3. The developers and ubisoft clearly stopped caring about this game, thats the main thing that makes me upset. The communication is hardly there, and too many times they have done this. Even if outriders wont be that good, at the devs communicate with their fans and constantly update players on whats coming to the game.
Like i said i respect your opinion, and im a fan of your channel, but i do think division 2 is at a point where any good third person looter-shooter can rival it, because the very game that pioneered these unique mechanics in these future titles, arent even fleshing them out in their own game.
Absolutely still loving division 2 do not care about outriders will still play division 2 I will stop playing division 2 when I get division 3
I played both division and destiny games, they did have a beta on Xbox preview. For Xbox Insiders for one week, last week. The game felt more like a RPG than both the divisions, but it did seem that there were just about the same amount of build diversity in in the game as division 2. I will say it did feel like destiny gameplay where most of the enemies rush you with a little bit of snipers chilling in the back. For all in all I would say it feels like I intensity battles when in combat.
P. S. I only played about 10 hours.
Outsiders won't take the Division 2 players no matter what others may think or say. Bottom line is this, Massive releases another meaty DLC and it's game over. And yes, the video was engaging.
To me I love this Div2. But I would love to play something new if we aren't getting new content. I loved the # system before warlords and talent on all the gear. The game began to get boring when they limited us to only two Talents. It created metas that last forever. Outriders will take a bit of my time away from div2 to me the two are nothing alike. I hope outriders makes a class of its own.
I don't care about Outriders, i'm not saying it's a bad game, it just isn't my thing. And as i said before, i don't remember if it was here, hardcore players won't leave a game just because some ultra hyped game is released, just look at td2, gta online and truck sim community, just to name a few.
You mentioned how the Division has realism. When I started playing D1, I did some side by side views of New York in the game and google maps and I loved how things so simple as a sidewalk ramp, water hydrant, or a K-rail all matched.
I played the closed beta. The only things that these game have in common is that they are both looter shooters with a cover mechanic. Division is a games as service while Outriders is not. Outriders doesn't have pvp and based off the way the game plays it never should because the balancing of weapon and gear would never work correctly, just like how Division has problems balancing pvp. Secondly, you have to play aggressive or you will die. Hadn't had a game make me sweat in a while, especially once you progress in the world tiers and you meet enemies that can negate your abilities or use abilities just as strong as yours. Outriders uses a mod system that allows you to put any mod on any piece of equipment within that class, so legendary mods can be put on other legendary gear or lower level gear. Once you add that mod to your library, you have it forever. The story is good but nothing groundbreaking, but the narrative is there and you learn how things went to crap from talking to npc, not audio logs. Outriders doesn't have that realism factor like Division because they are set in different worlds with different stories. Once you understand how your builds work you will feel Godly. I'm talking about blood and guts and enemies running for cover, or bosses that will go toe to toe with you. Legendary weapons come with mods that are ridiculously powerful. Like imagine taking 2 of your favorite talents from an exotic and having it on a pistol, shotgun or whatever. The game will release fully packaged, with plans to release more content depending on how good the game does. This game is great, not revolutionary but better then the Division as it stands now. The grind is sensible and content can be adjusted to your playstyle and build diversity is amazing.
If this game is able to offer half of what division offers than its okay…
The reason we complain about certain details in Division 2 is because we know that it is a very very good game and we have very high expectations, especially after Div 1 and knowing what the devs are capable of. The stuff we complain about in Division 2 are all tiny details. Loot at other dev companies how far back they are. I have more than 4000 hours of play time in Division 2. I hope someday another game will make me spend 4000 hours in it. Outriders with those little generic creatures will def not be it. If This game will make me play 100 hours I will consider it a sucess definitely. Its very hard to make a multiplayer co op pve and pvp game like division with great graphics, hundreeds of weapons, hundreeds of gear, and many skills and huge character customization details where every little number that you spec into your build MATTERS. Look at what other companies are doing. Respect to Massive and Ubisoft for their effort.
Bring on outriders can’t wait for this game something different👍
I personally prefer settings that are not based on reality. Also, it’s important to know that Outriders is not a games as service like Division/Destiny. It’s probably more like a 3rd person Diablo with gears shooting/violence and Destiny’s armor/ui aesthetics. I actually enjoy the little bit of Division 2 that I played, but my friends never really got into it so I didn’t even make it through the campaign.
judging by that aim from a console player i really hope i dont run into too many controller users while playing outriders / nothing againts console its just controllers sucks for this kinds of games ( and for most other types of games )
I think the major difference between the division and outriders is the end game. The division recycles content for the end game just with harder difficulty. After a while that gets very boring. Also if what they say is true when outriders gets released it will be a full game not a half ass game with dlc content being released throughout the year. I use to be a division fan but they lost me once they started punishing players and fans for taking advantage of mistakes they made. They took no accountability for their mistakes. Hence why people say that the division devs donIt care about their game, I almost feel like they are there just to cash in a paycheck. I am hoping that once outriders comes out the player base for the division drops massively, so that the division devs and publisher realize they no longer have a monopoly on looter shooters. That way they will be forced to produce quality content and not the crap they have been putting out the past couple of years. If u watch most of the content creators play this game they aren’t really playing it for fun factor, they play it because there is nothing else. Doesn’t mean that the game is good, and the devs and publishers looks at the numbers and they assume that they are doing something right. They never change or make any valid attempt to make the game as good as it should have been.
Bro the division is broken the PVE broken the PVP even more broken the dark Zone brokens honestly I'll write his doesn't have to do much to get anything right to take players from the division 2 especially the PVE players of division
For Division 3, I’d remove the Health System and replace it with a Suppression/Awareness system similar to Brothers in Arms for engaging in more real feeling Firefights
I'm in the Division gang/cult and there's nothing out there as satisfying as the game. Variations of gear sets alone is a game in itself. I tried to quit and now I'm upgrading my SHD watch level after completing Manhunts. Its becoming easier and satisfying as you progress for a solo player like myself. Waiting for something to take the crown.
I put more hrs in division 1 than division 2.
I agree with 1/2 of ur assessment homie as far gameplay and target audience and the dark zone have been dead for almost an ye now ur giving massive way too much credit than they deserve but ur right bout not knowing until we play outriders
Realism????? 🤣🤣 The only thing realistic is Washington and New York.