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I like your take on the meda, Kandy. If you leave everything strong nothing will be weak.
Gunfights might be shorter, perhaps fewer 3rd parties 🎉🤔🕵️🔥.
because no one like getting 2 shot from long distance and not even knowing where the shots came from
and the potential / TTK for 1 prenerf bow shot is equal to 5-7 shots of a 99 and 301, while not having snail movespeed ads and clunky animation that a sniper have
no reload, fast ads, no drop off and fast bullet travel time, the bow was asking for nerf when it was 1st released
Caustic tries to desnsitize himself from people yk not showing emotion or love so he doesnt get hurt
The Hemlok is definitely the forgotten gun. Kandy didn’t even think to talk about it being the just forgotten because it’s that forgotten
If u try to ever Play Arena u know hos bad tre L-star gets, it should be nerfed somewhat
I like the bow but I don't think it's fair to say it got nerfed into the ground or 'obliterated'. They reduced damage by 10, and that was it lol. It still has insane projectile speed, no drop off, no reload. It makes the sentinel obsolete in my opinion. The patch notes also say they increased the drawback animation by 0.02 seconds. 0.02! If you notice that, you're some sort of time god.
The problem with the bow is locating the enemy. The sound fx are too obscure.
Should we get a slight buff to the bow? I didn't realize a 10 damage nerf could impact the weapon so much. I guess trying to balance something is a difficult. I think the bows weakness is it's rate of fire but both hipfire and ADS are kinda nuts. Maybe it should have a Quickdraw attachment to it.
10:11 Boom sounds like Conan for a brief moment
Your grandfather was a fooooooolll
the bow is actually still pretty strong imo but the hivemind in apex is STRONG
Kandy's speech at the end reminded me of the guy from Berserk who had the technique honed from his family for so many generations speech and then he died lol
The problem you described at the beginning doesn't happen with majority of new guns, there are literally only 3 guns that are very strong on release and to be fair volt is the only one that keep it's "power", you can argue Rampage too but seeing it's getting used less and less despite no nerf means the community just balanced the gun itself, finding a glaring weakness which made the gun not a "must pick" anymore.
Same thing with Legends, only Seer actually relevant enough on release to be that broken, Horizon was even buffed before it reached nerf worthy status. So blaming community for not wanting to play with certain guns or legends is in my opinion is pretty unfair, sure there's always that one loudmouthed brat like the one from TSM that I shall not mention, but when community wanted a nerf on certain things and Respawn listened, big chance the thing was actually problematic. Obviously different case alltogether if Respawn didn't listen to their demands (keep trying, might get your watson's rework soon)
i feel like the bow should be care packaged, that way the loot pool is a lot less diluted and it can be as fun and broken as it was before
BS
their friendship is so wholesome :')
people are used to dying to 301 or 99 or flatline so it does not feel weird or annoying to be killed by these anything new feels not right and a nerf is demanded 😂
I think "new" Weapons like the Bow should basically be on the same Level to the R301, R99, Wingman, Flatline, Volt etc.
This Weapons are in a very good spot right now as mentioned on 3:16 "it feels fair to die to them" because they are not Overpowered and not too weak.
You need some skill to play them but you dont need to be perfect at aiming to get a kill.
The Bow on the other Hand is already very silent and therefore its too OP to make it stronger then the Wingman…
when bow came out everyone used it for the power it had because it was literally on par with base sentinal and now since its been nerfed so much people don't see it as consistent as using the buffed longbow and more consistent marksmen guns
Your Grandfather WaS a FoOl
you can make the argument both ways. it's like saying why don't you pick up the re-45 over the 301 , it's bc the 301 can do it better , so why would i wanna pick up a bow when i can use a wing man and get much better results
Bow is still overpowerd if you hit your shots
Kandy brought up a great point about the community’s reception in weapons.
I love kandy's content… But booms pop culture references kill me every time. They are such a good combo
that ending lmao!
Quality laughs were had. Bow bros.
Can we please nerf the rampage though? Like that’s the one weapon I think should DEFINITELY be nerfed because the rampage is WORSE THAN THE SPITFIRE
Ngl, I think the bow is still extremely strong and op
I could endlessly watch the Boom 1V1s with Macro as the ref. 'I'm literally peeing,' 'Stop! I'm gonna shit myself,' and 'Your grandfather was a foooooool' had me in tears.
That’s why I’m happy the L-star an prowler are stronger, there real contenders for endgame. Cause now we have more op guns besides the common 301/eva
The bow went from being busted to never used lmao
When you hit 3 shots and your teammate throws 2 silencers and takes the kill 🥺
Honestly I completely agree with macro, new legends and new weapons always get nerfed down to the point where they aren’t useable and I would personally like to see so other meta in the game. I think it would make it a lot funnier imo 🤷🏻♂️
Nerf small body movement characters!!! I’m going to keep saying it. It’s not good for the game.
I think the seer nerf they did was great
I love the bow and can land my shots consistently but nobody runs it and ammo gets so easily scarce
4:26 BRKHMPTN
Shattercaps still need a buff
I think the world be a much better place if we stopped inserting our dominance, lol! 😂
"bow bro, I'm stuck"
id use the bow more but charge rifle is love
Bow is fkn OP. It's not just the dmg that matters. It's easier to ignore a soft sound. You can 3rd party so fkn hard with it. You can craft arrows cheap af. It cracks in a single hit below Evo 3. Which makes people immediately panic
The Bow … mhh to be total honest – I feel like its a high mid range Wingman. There is a range at ~100-150meters where i feel the bow is better.
I actually did land a 4k bomb in the first 2 weeks of Season 9 in gold ranked with the bow.
I had arrows, i had the higher Ground and was shooting on ants like crazy BUT that was the only Game my memory can tell where i went super omega crazy with the bow.
If i think of other weapons i cant tell how much more good games i had.
Like the Rampage allready gave me two 4k badges nearly alone.
And i dont know if more ammo would fix picking the bow instead of Wingman, R-99, R-301, Volt, Flatline & Eva8, PK
*Edit: But lets be real: Hitting a non zoom HS over like 200 meters is DANG satisfying
2:40 Also i have to say i like it the way respawn nerfs.
Lets be real – Better Nerf Hemlock (As an example) hard then nerfing him over 1 year to a point where he is balanced.
After this they can buff it slightly now and then and ta da a perfect balanced weapon.
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"Bow bro" sounds so wholesome!