The GREATEST NORD is Ysmir Wulfharth? | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #41



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48 thoughts on “The GREATEST NORD is Ysmir Wulfharth? | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #41”

  1. No Mandela Effect. If you talk to the other three Greybeards after the ceremony, they will answer with a whispered "Dovahkin" accompanied by High Hrothgar shaking a little.

    There is a semi-radiant quest you can get from Angeir, who will direct you to all the word walls, one at a time.

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  2. What if the Mantella absorbed both Wulfarth and Zurin, merging them together? That would make the Underking both of them.

    Hard to say how Tiber would have merged with them to become Talos, perhaps when the Mantella was destroyed? Then, you know, retroactively making Talos all three of them the whole time.

    However, I doubt Tiber’s uses of the Thu’um can or should be attributed to Wulfarth, but rather I believe that Wulfarth may have been a teacher and advisor to Tiber.

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  3. You mentioned how Orkey has aspects of Arkey and Malacath and there aren’t many other gods like that.
    Am I though only one who thinks Alduin has aspects of both Akatosh and Molag Bal?
    ā€œDov wahlaan fah rel. We were made to dominate.ā€

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  4. Okay this might sound crazy but hear me out, what if Shor actually became a giant freaking mech in the heart chamber?

    The allied army of Nords, Orcs and the Sixth House make it into Red Mountain and take over the heart chamber, Shor's ghost takes over the Numidium as his new physical body and the reason he needs time is because his giant mech body is still powering up?

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  5. You can speak to the other Greybeards , but they just bow to you and whisper "Dovahkiin" and the room starts to rumble. So it definitely seems like mastering the Thu'um makes your voice carry power no matter the words

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  6. Regarding the Underking, in Daggerfall you get a letter from him saying:
    "The secret of Numidium lies in its heart, carried within the Mantella. It is the heart of Tiber Septims battlemage. It is my heart. It is my Mantella. It is my Totem. It belongs to me and no other. I have won and lost an empire."
    This seems to imply that the Underking is Zurin Arctus and not Ysmir.

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  7. Don't you meet Talos in Morrowind?
    I think his name is "Wolf" and he only appears in the Ghost Gate on your way to Red Mountain to Fight Dagoth Ur.
    He gives you a Lucky Coin that increases your Luck.

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  8. TES5 needed more of this lore to be fleshed out. As in a third DLC where the Dragonborn faces off against the Tongues of old to prove themselves and then even a battle with Wulfharth. I feel like the last remaining Dragonborn should have to walk in the footsteps of Ysmir to end up with that title in the end. I always pictured that the end of Skyrim should be that the Dragonborn sprnds the remainder of their life as the Guardian of High Hrothgar and the Throat of the World. That way in TES6 you would know that the Dragonborn continued their life to protect the foundation of Skyrim, maybe even its tower. Yet swearing to so many Daedric Princes would end their life short of 50 years give or take and then Kyne would take their soul as something like Wulfharth to be this protectorate soul for future Dragonborns. I do not particularly like the thought that the Dragonborn just ends up the same as Miraak, especially with how Hermaeus Mora has been an essential enemy to the people of Skyrim for all time.

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  9. 17:35 the greybeards do say a few things. they shout at you during your initiation as dragonborn, they shout when meditating outside in the tower and when you try and talk to the mute greybeards they whisper "Dovahkiin" at you and the ground rumbles

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  10. That idea of singing shor into the world is really interesting. Is it possible that the Last Dragonborn was summoned by song? The intro song to Skyrim, the bards singing about the Dragonborn coming, you get the idea.

    Also plays into the theory that the Last Dragonborn is a Shezzarine, since Shor is not present in Sovngarde and the player can sit in Shor's Throne.

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  11. Hello, Fudgemuppet. I have a request. It's a personal one, so it's fine if the answers no.

    I would like request a new Skyrim build called : The Forebear. It's a redguard who was adopted by an Imperial father, Bosmer mother and raised with a Dunmer uncle. I know that's a strange family but me and my family took a personality quiz for the Elder Scrolls race and that was our respective races. Anyhow The Forebear was raised to be a warrior, archer, and with training in destruction. He's loyal to the Empire but also wants to travel the land. His attire is the Imperial armor but instead of the helmet he'll wear a Redguard hood. Other than that, He'll side with the Imperials (obviously), Destroy the Dark Botherhood, Companions, College of Winterhold. The other details I will gladly trust you with.

    Thank you.

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  12. In the armies grow, where does lorkhan come from to tell them all of that? It implies he’s been wandering around nirn without his heart since time immemorial or they were somehow able to summon the rest of his body minus the heart. If that’s the case, then how does this work with shezarrines or the old knocker song? I’d like to think shor lost a significant chunk of his power when trinimac ripped out his heart and was left in a state similar to the other gods he tricked.

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  13. You ever connect Pelinal's moniker "Pelinal the Third" as potentially related to the Ysmir/Zurin/Hjalti triumvirate? What if their collectivization as Talos was the three disparate Shezzarines coming together to form a single god again, but the Underking was a sort of weird leftover sentience of the Shezzarines growing apart? I could definitely see Ysmir or Zurin being an incarnation of Pelinal, especially Zurin given his "Fox" name.

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  14. 24:19 I think just like Wulfharth represented Shor, Kagrenac represented Malacath to them and thus was given a title in legend fitting of such if I were to guess. While the dwemer weren't religious, it doesn't mean Malacath wouldn't have been able to have his own Shezarrine of sorts (and maybe its from his past form before Boethiah did him in the first time, and that missing part of his essence could be the avatar responsible for Kagranac's connection to Malacath). Other than Lorkhan and his aspects I dont think anyone canonically has that type of trait aside from Lorkhan in the pantheon, however Malacath would the the only other who has met the same requirements to have a Shezarrine (losing a piece of themselves that could/has become its own entity like the heart which literally laughed at Azura, in this case Malacath is whats left of Trinimac) so his original spirit, being, or aspect could still maybe reincarnate similarly to Lorkhan.

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  15. Tue greybeards do speak as you say Michael.. Tho they besides Angrir, the others only ever say "Dovakin".. And when they do, it causes a minor quake.. If u using a controller, it vibrates with the quake.

    From this, I recon it should be safe to surmise it only feels like a light quake cuz you're the dragonborn, but having a regular person within the visinity (barring followers due to gameplay mechs) it could have much more devastating effects..

    Couple this to how ordinary people normally wouldn't be able to withstand their chants during the ceremony where the name you Ysmir, I think this line of thought has merit as to why they don't speak around other ppl

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