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Honestly, complementing a bit your already thought out view on the "slow burn" on Vi and Caitlyn's relationship, I do think they did that on purpose so they can go deeper on it latter on.
Caitlyn is also a League of Legends character, and, SPOILER ALERT they eventually become partners. So with that information, I'd say they wanna develop this a little bit more so the payoff really feels earned.
Me playing vi a champs in league of legends who are fighter and tank build makes me proud that my baby is on Netflix haha..
I loved this video ahaha! Your review was insightful yet hilarious, and I completely agree with your points. Maybe we will get that handshake~
Seems to me everyone is ignoring that Mel and Jayce's relationship has had years to develop while Cait and Vi only had two days. If anything I think their relationship was rushed a bit.
Thanks for your review 🙂
It's hard for me to see the serie throught the demonstrative romance lens.
Zaun and Piltover are clearly cities where romance is not welcome and can be seen as a weakness (expecialy in Zaun territory)
Even if it makes no doubt that characters experience love feelings : between sisters, between parents and childs and obviously Vi and Cait.
For me, the sex scene between Mel and Jayce does not have to be linked to a romance and could be interpreted as a possible political "binding" or manipulation.
That's why I found the second part of your review a little stretched.
Thank you for your efforts and the video ^^
Take care and stay safe :3
As a league player, and a minor lore nut. A lot of people have been Shipping Vi and Caitlyn for years. But Riot has never done anything about it. I"m straight, but I too have shipped this couple because .. well i guess it started with the camaraderie that started in their bio's. Then I was made aware of people shipping the couple and I gave it a thought and was on board. It was nice to see a possible relation in the series, but Riot higher up, unless there is an overwhelming out cry from the league community, is very slow to "change."
I love the show, I am Star Wars fanatic, and the Mandolorian was my pinnacle of Star Wars content since the first two trilogies and The Clone Wars. However, Arcane just enthralled me and never let go. I was hyped and hooked from the announcement of the Series, so I had high expectation, and was kind of bracing for the worst. Yet, I was absolutely blown away. Like I was chomping at the bit each week for the next Act.
In the League lore, there's also these two women who are vessels of Aspects(god-like beings), they're lovers but became enemies because of their beliefs and there's also a shapeshifting humanoid chameleon that's inlove with a tribe leader
To be honest, I don't like how so many people are focusing so much on the "diversity" of the show, there's so much good things about it, the writting, the art, the music, the plot, the world building… The world itself is super diverse, there's not just sexual preferences and race, there's humans, yordles, vastayas, even robots all coexisting in the same city.
I like how the show did it with Vi and Caitlyn. They made it look natural without shoving it down our throats, which is my main complain about forced diversity in current shows, they dont look natural, it just looks like they're there for quota purposes.
I would love for Katelyn and Vi to get together in way that doesn't overshadow the storyline. Which let's face it will never happened. Riot is owned by a chinese company and even though it's on nefltix we know who's going to pull the strings. the Chinese censor.
I'm glad they didn't rush it because I don't feel they've earned it yet. Or maybe I just love romantic tension too much. 😉
Vi is nearly as traumatized as her sister, suffering many of the same losses, just being able to cope with them slightly better because she was a bit older when they happened.
She also spent her teenage years locked in prison in virtual isolation. The only physical interactions she had with anyone at the time was in receiving or doling out physical abuse.
She's not going to break out of jail and immediately be like "Oh, I can't wait to get into a relationship!"
She is very goal focused and driven to achieve those goals, she isn't spending a lot of time on other things except when she has down time. The most intimate scenes that happened between her and Cait happened in situations where Vi could not progress through her own action. The bedroom scene happened because Vi literally could do nothing else but wait until her time to speak to the council, so she started to open up a little. Every other scene, Vi speaks while actively moving toward whatever her goal is. Even that scene in the rain, Vi was having that conversation with Cait while walking away because she is back on her track heading to her destination.
Her damage, her trauma, her love for her sister, all of this is why she didn't just jump in the sack with Cait at the first possible opportunity. It wouldn't have been realistic or satisfying or even meaningful if they had, though i'm sure plenty of people would've loved it because people tend to love hollow gestures like that.
I think their portrayal was perfect. Jinx isn't looking for anyone to shack up with either.
I get a feeling they will go all the way in season 2 with Vi and Caitlin, the reason they are going slow is 1) because LoL players have been shipping this couple for a long time and they want to keep them hooked. Haha sabe 2) While with Mel and Jayce it was a bit more superficial, a manipulation from Mel than ended up in a sexual relationship, I think they are trying to build a more profound relationship of intimacy and love between Caitlin and Vi, who are very different characters who have previously seen each other as antagonists.
BTW, it was thoroughly enjoyable for me, a straight cis-gendered woman who never played the game, and I'm rooting for these two to get together for real 🙂
theres a reason its so suggestive. one its in the story of both these characters lore that they may have been a couple. i mean its so equally vague its just a giant tease since people first found out it they were room mates. the lore even goes further with even the bad guys they catch and other officers wandering if they are. its part of their core how suggestive their romance is. alittle heads up……. they break up. it was once a thing but caitlyn wants more order and control but vi is just too impulsive and rough. theres even a third girl who pops in that suggestive to be caityns bad girl phase but vi always believes if she could she could get caitlyn back just its not in the immediate future too. like she knows its her fault and Caitlyn is a good girl so she lets Caitlyn live her life but stays great friends with her. fun little tidbit in the game any time she mentions cupcakes shes thinking of caitlyn. if she every mentions a woman or her she means Caitlyn. its part of the suggestive nature that fuel early shippers for a very long time. ekko actually looks up to vi but people though that was something till they realize ekko had been and always will love jinx. he wishes he could save her but how can you save someone whos broken in the head or in the heart. hes great with machines not with people. as for that sex scene…. that actually broke the community. the man was suppose to be the guy everyone though caitlyn should be or is with. that scene basically ruined that shipping community and everyone who was mad at shippers for trying to turn a character gay. it was a wierd area in lol history.
4:00 why do I relate to that too much.
I don't mind a slow burn if it's done right. This show was so goddamn amazing. I think I'm gona watch it again for the art alone.
The intellectual property is owned by Riot which is owned by Tencent which has a tendency to censor lesbian/gay relationships which might be why the romance between Vi and Caitlyn has more emotional development and no big kiss or overt sex scenes (in contrast with Mel and Jayce).
As things stand, I think that Vi and Caitlyn have easily the best written romantic relationship in the show. It deserves more development next season, hopefully it gets it.
You must watch Warriors 2021 Cinematic, Vi & Caitlyn is there! ❤️
Jayce relationship had years to develop. Vi and Caitlyn knew each other for not even multiple days?
I'm pretty sure most straight men would enjoy seeing Vi and Caitlyn get the same sort of… um, screentime… that Jayce and Mel got.
I mean how is Vi-Cayitlin relationship slow? They knew each other only for a couple of days. And most of that time they kinda had other things to worry about, like fighting, running, bleeding out and being captured. Not to mention focusing on the whole Powder/Jinx issue. And to top it all off they didn´t exactly start at ideal starting point. You know the whole Vi the criminal in prison vs Cayitlin the person working for the people who had been making Vi´s life hell since before she was even born.
Considering all the issues (both practical and emotioanal) they had to overcome, their bond actually developed extremly fast. Too fast even. It´s miracle that they are even able so much as trust each other, let alone acting on any romantic feelings atop of that.
Really, compared to the other romantic relationships in the show, theirs is actually developing at breakneck speed. The others have been in the making for years or even decades and they didn ´t exactly amount to much in all that time.
Classic rule of drama: Make your characters take the worse possible choices. Once you make sure they will screw themselves over, by instance by choosing to insist on seeking revenge through violence, instead of letting go of the past and embracing love, moving therefore towards a path that might lead to happiness, you also make sure tragedy will follow. And what is the essence of drama if not that feeling of "What the heck are you doing!?" one gets when we see someone like Vi just walking away from a precious cinnamon roll as Caitlin?
Cinnamon roll, cupcake; you know what I mean.
season 2 spoilers!!!!
its been confirmed that vi & caitlyn will kiss in season 2
I hope they don’t rush gay romance. I love it when it smooth right in naturally . I swear some shows like: legend of korra and owl house rush the romance, it leaves a odd and bad feeling of how the story process or loses it focus of the actual point of the story or other characters. 😭😭
they're both popular characters in league of legends so I feel like they really want to do them right for the fans. I think that's why this show does so well, each character is already loved greatly so i think they're going to go for something that seems solid and true, especially since VI still hates enforcers. Mel isn't a character from the original game so I feel like her involvement with Jayce is temporary, whereas cait and vi are going to be here for the long haul.
A little context. Vi has always flirted with Cait in the League of Legends itself… well vi has flirted with a lot of women but cait is special. Caitlyn however has never reciprocated these feelings in any way until Arcane. She has always been "Married to the Job" and shown no interest in other people but her and vi are partners in crime fighting and very close so the Fan base has alwasy shipped them together. Also because Cupcake is a great pet name and Vi deserved happiness, so honestly i was surprised they decided to even do things as overt as they have in Arcane already with their relationship. All the fans want it to be canon and commit in season 2
Just a disclaimer, Caitlyn isn't a lesbian. Her lore heavily implies she's bisexual, and her sexual tension with Jayce in the show clearly implies it as well.
Thats all.
Carry on.
I think one should keep in mind that in universe Jayce knew Mel for years, while Cait and vi knew each other for… 3 days? By the end.
I don't think it's a slow burn that they haven't kissed yyet. To me it seemed very clear that they were an item.
this is not new. is new on the show but. the VI and Caith history is beyond when the game was new. i like it. is like not put there for bring like "inclusity" are very well done in my opinion. i hate league of legends but. the show. blow my emotions.
Short explanation as to why Cait and Vi aren't "officially" a thing yet is simply because both of them are champions (playable characters). Those two have been teased to be an item for literal years already, to the point that fans pretty much "know" that they're together but they're just "not" together, which is pretty much why no one who knows these characters really bat an eye when Jayce and Mel were going at it on screen, because… POSSIBLE SPOILER INCOMING!!!
Mel is not a champion, that character was built from the ground up, as opposed to in-game characters that people have some sort of attachment with for years, no one really cares that much about Mel's love story, which is why it was done pretty fast (although the mystery and tension in the beginning finding out what her true motives are were very cool)
Ended up binging it in 2 days.
Yah, talk about it. Very hard to quit watching this.
извините, но здесь нет никакой lesbian любви. Вы совершенно не внимательно смотрите шоу, воспринимаете все однобоко, в рамках своих фантазий. Между Вай и Кейтлин только дружба, не больше, если вы внимательно посмотрите несколько раз и подумаете немного, тогда поймете. Мне жаль что большинство людей такие слепые
I think all relationships in the show were very organic. Vi and Caitlyn have a very different relationship from Jayce and Mel. Mel came from a culture where showing strength and taking what you want was socially promoted while Vi and Caitlyn come from two communities that are close to a civil war with each other. Of course their relationship progresses slower.
As you said yourself the writers didn't feel the need to rush their relationship, so they could give it some more room. We have great potential here for one of the best non straight relationships on TV in season 2.
Arcane blew my mind.
I went into it not expecting much and finished it with my jaw on the floor. Seriously…..WOW.
And I love the growing bond between Vi and Caitlyn, I just hope they are not queerbaiting, that would be a shame.
I felt like the Mel and Jayce interaction was more evidenced of her manipulation of him, including the "love" scene. Even before that scene, I was suspicious of her and felt she was a politician in every aspect of her interactions with Jayce. The only exception was her obvious estrangement from her meddling mother.
Now, my gaydar is broken and out of warranty, and it still rang like church bells whenever Caitlyn and Vi were together on screen. I feel like their relationship had far more meaning than the one between Jayce and Mel, because wasn't mired in implied/actual manipulation and politics. Vi and Caitlyn were, despite being the clear opposites of a cop and a criminal, upper class and lower class, able to find common ground with each other.
Their only complication has been and will be Jinx. And I think that could drive a wedge between them, at least for a while. Cait's mother probably died in the final scene, and she's not going to be in a position to forgive Jinx for raining the Apocalypse down on everything she held dear. But, I do think one of them (likely Vi) will have to budge on their viewpoint, and they'll be able to repair the damage to their own relationship. But there could be some awesome fight scenes between them first. 😉
I loved their faces when Cait's mother barged in with a rifle.
what is a lesbian? lol
My one criticism of Vi and Caitlyn(my new parents sorry old family) is they have a break up scene before they are even together like okay. Its fine tho cuz this just means season 2 they can already have that out the way, move in together, decorate the home in half guns half gauntlets and brass knuckles and carry on with the plan to adopt me, their gay son. HEA Achieved
Same, I also watched Arcane for the gay moments but I ended up loving Jinx more.
They're going to kiss and $%@ I FEAKING LOVE them please riot make it happen in SEASON 22222222222222222222222222222222222222222!
Mel and Jayce live in comfort and are political allies. Their sex isn't meaningless, per se, but it's easier to be intimate in that opulent world.
Vi has lived a guarded, violent life. She trusts very few and intimacy is dangerous. Moreover, the woman she's flirting with is "the enemy" in the grand scheme. Vi isn't going to have a fling with Cupcake because she actually likes her. Maybe even respects her.
…but if the leanings are towards intimacy.
Well, ironically, her "guard needs work."
Finally, someone that loves jinx more than vi
I know gay people are very tied to their sexual preference as if it’s their identity, but the show itself wasn’t heavy handed in it’s messaging which I’m sure many appreciated about the show.
It wouldn’t bother me if they both hooked up given the character of Vi is a Tom Boy and it makes sense why she would prefer the same sex.