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Minecraft 1.19.1 has universal bans across multiplayer servers and realms as Mojang and Microsoft adds Player Chat Reporting to the game through the Social Interactions Screen.
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Is Minecraft 1.19 A Disappointment? What Went Wrong With The Wild Update?
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Minecraft 1.19.1 was supposed to be released yesterday – but now it is delayed. I can't help but feel its related to the chat reporting system.
Also, please don't take the thumbnail too seriously. Its just a bit of fun poking at "1984" conspiracies, just my sense of humour if its not clear 🙂
“Mojang told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. Concept art is not a commitment.”
Sorry to say it, but I seriously disagree with X on this one, and I'm honestly really happy to see that other people in the comments are taking this pretty seriously as well. One comment I especially agree with is this one:
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AaronGrooves
In my opinion, moderation is not their responsibility. Not by law. Not by community demand. And let's be honest — not even by necessity. This is a job for the the players of the game, or for the parents of players, or for server owners. Mojang is responsible for creating a great game with great content, nothing more. If they don't introduce harmful content, or explicit language/images, then their game remains E for Everyone. Stepping into everyone's personal conversations is an abuse of power. Taking that power away from adults, parents, and private servers is disturbing and intruding.
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The last thing we really need are these huge corporations deciding what everyone is and isn't allowed to say online, even if they have good intentions. There's definitely a slippery slope here where "protecting you" today turns into oppression tomorrow. I also believe the gray area is going to be much, much bigger than X thinks it will be. Let's take a look at the rough outline here…
1. Hate Speech – This one sounds good on the surface, I'd love to never see hate speech around, however, what exactly will count as hate speech? Is there any leeway for jokes? I've seen good friends and interracial couples joke around and say things that would be considered hate speech if it was coming from someone else with a malicious attitude. How do differences in political opinions play into this? If my political opinions differ from what Mojang's political opinions, am I going to get banned? What if I'm chatting with friends and want to criticize certain political groups that I dislike? People are incredibly sensitive to things like this, and oftentimes will generalize a specific criticism into an attack on an entire group. I've seen this happen here on youtube, on facebook, and a bunch of other places. It's nearly guaranteed that if you criticize something like the Chinese Communist Party, someone will pop up and accuse you of being racist against all Chinese people.
2. Sexual content and soliciting improper contact – Again, this one sounds good if you're only thinking about potential pedophiles preying on children. No one wants that. But Kink servers exist, ones with consenting adults who know exactly what they're signing up for, with server moderators who are very careful about who gets whitelisted. Even more common are private servers for dating or married couples. I had a realms server a while back when my bf and I were doing a long distance relationship for a while and guess what? We flirted a lot and many "inappropriate" things were said. Is that worth getting banned for on a server with just us and a couple other close friends?
3. Real Life Threats – Very few quibbles with this one, except again, people make jokes that can be misconstrued by an automated moderating system, or by people who are familiar with the friendship dynamic.
4. Exposing the Personal Information of Others – No big complaints again with this one, but I'd like more specific information here. What if I mention what country someone lives in, or something about someone's town? Lots of private servers have close friend groups where this kind of information is common knowledge amongst the group.
5. & 6. Posting links to malicious software and Impersonating staff – These seem like the most straightforward and least objectionable of all the rules. Is it possible to post a malicious link accidentally? I guess so, but it's probably quite infrequent.
7. Cheating/exploits – Goodbye DocM77, you shall be missed. But otherwise, no complaints about banning cheaters.
8. General commercial spamming – Pretty unmistakable, annoying, but also not exactly harmful. It probably deserves a warning or two before being banned.
I also believe that X is being incredibly overly-optimistic about the "well-trained" moderators. Minecraft is a massive community, hiring an appropriate number of well-trained and well-paid staff to actually handle bans in a well-considered manner would be ridiculously expensive for them. It's never going to happen. What is likely to happen is that it'll be an automated system with a handful of reviewers who are constantly overwhelmed and end up sloppy and cutting corners just to try and keep up with all the requests.
Private servers already moderate their own communities. No one wants or needs Mojang to do it. Let people take personal responsibility for themselves and their families. If you don't like a server, leave it, or make your kids leave it. Or even if Mojang really wants to take care of their younger players more carefully, then at least give private servers an opt-out button. Have parents mark something as a child's account when they buy the game and keep it out of age-restricted servers automatically. There have to be other options here that don't involve treating the entire player-base like a bunch of 8-12 yr olds just because Mojang thinks some 8-12 yr old players do need to be sheltered.
Chat moderation is completely and entirely against everything Minecraft stands for. This is an abysmal change and will spell the doom for Minecraft.
There is zero room for any of this censorship. None of it.
When every platform is a “safe space in society 🤓” uh.. hell yes Minecraft has been a bastion of free speech. There is an infinite number of “much safe spaces” you can crawl to if you joined a Minecraft server where people can say mean words.
You don’t fear the update because you won’t be affected. And if you did you would be able to instantly get your account back, unlike most users who could sit in ban application limbo for months or years. You aren’t being targeted by this update, we are.
Parents perhaps should monitor their own child in online games and spaces. Its not too difficult to find child-friendly moderated servers, but too many parents want to blame the game itself for their inability to care for their child.
The same way they wouldn't let their child wonder around with a bunch of strange adults on their own, they shouldn't let their child enter adult servers.
Mojang perhaps should have added a parental control option to the game where their child can only go to servers their parent has set up for them. Or perhaps have a list of microsoft-approved or even microsoft-run servers that are child-safe that are available to anyone who downloads the game.
Instead of monitoring every single player.
Honestly guys, I'm unsubbing over this lol. I just can't follow a person that thinks this is fine and dandy and sees no issue with it.
I feel that if they want to do this sort of moderation on their official Microsoft Minecraft servers, fine, but they should NOT do this on private, Java servers. It should be up to the server owner(s) to provide rules/moderation, not Mojang or Microsoft. This definitely does chime of "1984". Something we have enough of in the real world, we do not need, nor deserve, for private Java servers. That's just my 2 coppers worth.
Honestly im not into that kind of conspiracy shit but it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that mojang aka microsoft is monitoring every chat and could in theory just farm data about every single of their player, ofc there are already companies that do that kind of stuff, but lets put it this way we surely dont need more and companies that invade some sort of gaming “safezone”. If they do it only in realms? fine get me permabanned on realms but on normal multiplayer? The servers already have staff that looks out for bad behaviour or behaviour that isnt welcome in their community, so if you have a server with an older playerbase they dont need to talk like peaceful 5 year olds chats would sound like this: “Oh man, that really wasn’t nice of you. Please stop hitting me and give me my items back”. No! Let the staff of the server decide what kind of lenguage is adeguate to their playerbase. Even less makes sense that they have sich a problem with bad behaviour in chat but allow fucking server (where children could be playing) allow to fucking buy with real money rankings, vip rights, gamepasses or crates which could bring the same fucking kids to a fucking gambling addiction. Its total nonsense. I can see the standpoint but its not their role in my opinion. And just to make another exaple games like league of legends, valorant, overwatch or rocketleague. They have to keep an eye for the chats but its their servers, the game is not based on chatting and they reward (more or less) good behaviour, this system has its flaws too I mean how many times do most of us report players out of maybe rage? I really feel like microsoft made minecraft a better game at the start but slowly just got bored of it and left it to die, covid brought so my people new or old to the game and what did they continue to do? bring updates that are minor changes of gameplay, poorly designed or overall unfinished. And now we are at a time where Microsoft be like: you said something bad fuck you get off my game enjoy singleplayer
Microsoft may actually be able to cripple minecraft and kill of the game with this one the time it will take to get all the kinks out and fix being able to be falsely banned people are going to ether just leave or be to discouraged to come back
6:07 it is really creepy to see your countrys news on the tv out of all the countries
Honestly, there is too much abuse on the internet. And everyone gets away with it "because it's the internet."
Mojang is going in a good direction, but if you are an adult, have a server that is ONLY adults. Some kid creates an account on an adult server, the problem is the parents aren't making sure their kids are safe online.
And while you don't want to invade your child's privacy, you should know what they are up to online. Period.
Just allow servers to decide whether to be kid-friendly. Make this opt-in. Only ban players from these servers. Do not ban players from servers that do not opt-in. Free speech can exist while child-friendly places also can exist. These global bans are ridiculous. If Mojang doesn't step up. We will. Java community always wins. We defeated 1.9 with plugins. We will defeat this authoritarian overreach. 1984 cannot become real.
For YouTubers, I guess X in particular here, what's your plan for if you're banned from Minecraft? These systems end up automated with limited support mechanisms for the people who are banned.
There's a 100% chance that many Minecraft YouTubers will lose their content source
…. The moderators will have limited training, and paid the lowest amount possible, from places with limited understanding of the languages used on the servers.
I understand this change as being the end of independently run servers. This moves towards Microsoft administered servers only
Hello, I know there have been many comments like this one but either way I'm going to add my opinion. I'm a server owner and moderator for a small roleplay Minecraft server (no this is not an advertisement and no I not giving the Ip) we primarily are the ages of 18 years and up (we have one 17-year-old that's turning 18 in 2 months ) we generally do role-playing from a variety of viewpoints from crazy old people to neive young. All of these characters also talk in their own way some being too neive to know what cursing is so they mimic it from the crazy old bird, while some try to set them on the right path. My biggest concern is that someone might get banned from being in character and roleplaying their character. I also fear as server owner being permanently banned from servers because that would mean that not only has all the money I've put into the server to keep it running will be waisted but also my time as each one of the iterations and seasons of my server has a different carefully handcrafted mod pack.
What if my friend is stuck in the nether with no way out and I tell him to kill himself? Or if we’re playing pvp and I tell him I’m going to kill him? “”Offensive”” conversation is often part of the game.
I have a feeling this "feature" isn't going to make it into 1.19.1 and eventually it'll just fade away and never seen again.
The only thing this really does is give corrupt server owners the ability to ban people from playing Minecraft ever just because they dont like them. Also typing in all caps isn’t an issue, why is that something they look at? The problem would be if they are being an asshole, not that they are grammatically incorrect.
I paid for a game, now I’m being restricted in the game I paid for, Microsoft has ruined the game I knew this was going to happen
I’m running mods to block new moderation system
They went too far and it will only get worse. Soon if you dont have the correct thought you will be booted
I don't think people would allow parents to yell and swear in a kid's classroom around other kids. I think they'd be asked to leave. I picture Minecraft moderation in the same way. But permanent bans, and automatic opt-ins seems like over reach.
its all just a scam for more money by microsoft; when they ban people who actually really like minecraft, they will just buy another minecraft account, and end up paying even more.
I think you are not seeing the moderation that Microsoft has a history of.
MINECRAFT IS DEAD! LONG LIVE MINECRAFT!
We’ve always been at war with Eurasia
Just let players moderate their own servers. There is no good in having a corporation control moderation if communities already do all of this and do it better.
You are wrong. Moderation is a winnable game if you let each community choose what rules they have and how to execute on them.
This is only a tool for trolls and the like to exploit it or for Microsoft to spy on us more than they already do, that brings no tangible difference to already working servers with rules and moderation teams.
This will certainly hit vulnerable groups and minorities. What's that "illegal" stuff they talk about? They're going to go after anyone who is not straight because of the laws in Saudi Arabia? After everyone talking about how to avoid Roe v Wade in Texas?
Ban anyone joining the open library because of CCP censorship?
So another argument about safety vs freedom…
Just add age restrictions per server or even world that can be controlled by admins. Only you should choose the correct level of words and or actions only for you and your space, not others.
Free-speech must be everywhere Microsoft is like a dictatorship
I think you are too naive here. Microsoft has great products, but is also one of those companies that love to meddle with people, hate free speech and want total control. This is a power grab that can only be answered with modding to kill it.
The reason why its a big topic of discussion is, Java has never had a moderation system like this before. Unlike Bedrock which rolled out with this within the game. Microsoft is trying to gain control over everything and its painting a bad picture for multiplayer. Minecraft is a game of expression and freedom, and Microsoft sometimes does not understand these things. They should keep their nose out.
you know what they say about certain roads and 'good intentions…'
Minecraft should not act the role of parent. Parents should be aware that Minecraft is a game people of all ages play and then take precautions themselves, not have Minecraft do it for them. When I was younger my parents had me turn chat off. That was all the effort needed. Instead of placing these restrictions on all players just inform parents of the measures they can take to protect their kids.
Though thinking about it a little more it would be bad business wise to say that your game might not be safe for young audiences when young audiences are the majority of their sales.
The community was doing just fine before these communistic moderation systems.
So I'm going to get banned it's been nice