0:00 – Intro 0:37 – Pick a class you enjoy 1:37 – Master the fundamentals 4:05 – Try not to deviate from the meta 5:37 – Find partners with the same goals as you …
48 thoughts on “The ULTIMATE Guide To ESCAPING Low CR (Challenger/Rival/Duelist) | Shadowlands 9.0 Guide”
Hey guys, over the next week we'll be releasing an update on BiS covenants, stats and legendaries for every class along with updated tier lists and a very special guide on the 10 game losing mistakes every player makes in arena. Enjoy!
The hardest part for me, new to pvp, is the amount of specs and abilities one has to know just to be aware of what’s going on during the match. All these cd’s u gotta keep track of. It feels like I have to study every class/spec and than the best comps and how to counter them. It feels overwhelming.
yeah this isn't a 'guide to gladiator', more a guide to not being really bad, but it's a useful guide none the less. I've played with plenty of players who don't even know what skills they have in the spellbook, or havent got them on their bars, or just have no clue about others' skills or abilities. knowing your own class is the first thing, knowing others is the second, then communicating is the third imo.
saw you guys got a new site. it looks good. are you gonna be releasing a tier list like this one http://www.skill-capped.com/content/16186/wow-tier-list/ ? i dont mind if its behind a pay wall id id happily pay for it just want to know if somthing similar is coming out of SL
I would love a series like "how to counter X" that shows us each of the cooldowns, icons, animations, sounds and maybe a few generic strategy notes. There is a LOT of potential videos to do. I know it would be outdated in future but I think it would still be worthwhile to reference down the line as you'd still know all the staple spells
Very nice video! 🙂 Just… You can not play what you want or love to play! Not in WoW. Mainly because of other players. If you love to play a class that is not "One of the top best classes" – other players only want what is best for them and that is to get a team from "top meta picks"! It will be too hard to get someone to play with. So only pick classes "you like to play" that is at the top of the meta!
Honestly my best tip is get on discord with the people you que with from group finder make some friends with the same goals and grow togheter. This is how I got my first glad in bfa and hopefully how I will get it again in shadowlands 🙂
I play mistweaver monk with a warrior partner. If I don’t get two shotted we win everytime. The problem is we are getting over 1700 now and I can’t even get off two macros before a rogue two shots me or even if I pillar hide when I peak I instantly get wrecked, my partner sometimes will LOS me so I have to go out in the open or leave pillar etc which leaves me vulnerable. I can’t figure out if he is the problem or I am? I have full pvp gear etc
As annoying as mirror matches is you learn a lot from them. You have to accept somewhere out there, there is someone who played your class longer or more effective. I struggled with this a lot. On DK i mained for years before going back to my Ret I learbed how to beat every single DK i duled. Im currently leaening this on ret now. I use to hate going against other ret pallies in arena until I learned even my favorite ret pallies loose in arena to mirror matches as well. My point is a great way to get better is playing against the same spec where the player is better.
You should put out some content around this and support this video creator. DH has been absolutely destroyed and blizzard need to do something about it. https://youtu.be/1ZssyVlbahE
>Play class you enjoy >Try not to deviate from the meta Yeah lol. You can enjoy your holy priest all you want but after getting dumpstered by double melee you will just quit or reroll.
I think it's also important to mention not to overthink things when it comes to mentality. Especially if you can't tell for sure, because a lot of things will just come with time.
"pick a class u enjoy" – ok man, I always play non meta classes… not gonna play rogue or mage tho… struggling to survive more than 10 sec on my affliction lock
Well …. I got awesome UI. All the addons and stuff and over the years of playing WoW … I never looked at it. Using gladius or sarena since it came out, using big debuffs etc. Can't look at it 😀 I can only tunnel vision what is in front of me. Damn even using voice I am so focused I can't tell my partner a single thing. A single CD or even ask for dark angel 😀 I simply cannot do more than 1 thing at once. I literally can't even talk when gaming.
It blows my mind that back in wrath/cata I hit 2200 on druid, warrior, priest and 2500 on shaman, took a few xpacs off and now I struggle at 1500. The fundamentals are the same, so I felt like after 100-200 games I'd be able to climb. But nah, hard stuck on multiple classes. Although I have played suboptimal comps just to play with friends.
Step 1: Know how to play your class and its role. Step 2: Practice it in skirmishes/bg's and wpvp/duels Step 3: know what comps your class and role play well in; learn the comp and how it plays Step 4: find a team that will learn with you Step 5: Que arenas….
I feel like challenger is not a bad spot to be in right now if you aren't familiar with all classes and their abilities. It's very tough to get out of -1700 rating for someone who just plays on and off. I came back this expansion after I had reached 2.1k exp in WOTLK and 2k in legion, and it's much more difficult, for now at least. 1600 rating used to be mostly noobs in the past and now I saw gladiators there. Maybe it's temporary….
People just need to play more games. That’s literally it. You’re at that CR for a reason. I like to tell anyone who ask me how I got 2400 is to literally play the game. Be consistent with queueing 3s and make sure you have a stable group of players you can consistently play with. You can be too picky once you’re getting started and you can’t be that 2.2k player with that ego. People are willing to get better if you’re willing to give them a chance. That’s what I’ve learned and that’s how I’ve always managed to get high rated in arenas.
Playing affi,was doing 2s with 1 more dps. It was going good. We went to 1350 in short time. Alot of wins.. and then from. There i start geting low mmr enemys burst classes who oneshot us in few second.. i am losing like 16 rating.. and when i win i get 10 or even less. Its strange for me.. on that low rating to have that system. What is this all about i cant find on internet? Enemys from that rating start to be so good like in 2k rating..
I'm hardstuck at 1200 as feral druid, managed to hit 1560 with a healer last week but then lost it all again. I'm only doing 2v2 with random people though. Still makes me mad how I can be this shit at the game.
Arms/Ret/Disc. <——— Haven’t played in a couple years. Come back for shadowlands. Started 3’s a day ago and we played a couple hours last night. Currently right under 1500 rating. Melee is where it’s at right now guys. If you don’t global one of us at the beginning, you die.
Watching streamer that have high cr and plays my class helps me the most. Watching videos like this and more and u will get better I Promis. I was hard stuck 1800 and now im 2200. Give yourself time.
I could easily reach 1.8-1.9k in bfa from season 1 to 3 with my rogue and warrior, i took a break in season 4 and didnt play endgame content after got my curve in first week because fuck corruption it was so broken and i can’t even reach to 1.4k now, don’t know what went wrong with me 🙁
Hey guys, over the next week we'll be releasing an update on BiS covenants, stats and legendaries for every class along with updated tier lists and a very special guide on the 10 game losing mistakes every player makes in arena. Enjoy!
Bad audio (microphone). Fix for next video with this narrator
The hardest part for me, new to pvp, is the amount of specs and abilities one has to know just to be aware of what’s going on during the match. All these cd’s u gotta keep track of. It feels like I have to study every class/spec and than the best comps and how to counter them. It feels overwhelming.
"Dont yell and rage at your teammates. People will be less likely to wanna play with you". All pvpers should take this advice. See way too many ragers
Can Orcs racial hardiness stack with venthyrs Familiar Predicaments?
yeah this isn't a 'guide to gladiator', more a guide to not being really bad, but it's a useful guide none the less. I've played with plenty of players who don't even know what skills they have in the spellbook, or havent got them on their bars, or just have no clue about others' skills or abilities. knowing your own class is the first thing, knowing others is the second, then communicating is the third imo.
Yeah ok the issue is I don't find anyone to play with. I have above average ilvl and decent gameplay but when I q for arena it lasts 10 games at best.
saw you guys got a new site. it looks good. are you gonna be releasing a tier list like this one http://www.skill-capped.com/content/16186/wow-tier-list/ ? i dont mind if its behind a pay wall id id happily pay for it just want to know if somthing similar is coming out of SL
I would love a series like "how to counter X" that shows us each of the cooldowns, icons, animations, sounds and maybe a few generic strategy notes. There is a LOT of potential videos to do. I know it would be outdated in future but I think it would still be worthwhile to reference down the line as you'd still know all the staple spells
Very nice video! 🙂
Just… You can not play what you want or love to play! Not in WoW.
Mainly because of other players. If you love to play a class that is not "One of the top best classes" – other players only want what is best for them and that is to get a team from "top meta picks"! It will be too hard to get someone to play with. So only pick classes "you like to play" that is at the top of the meta!
RBG guide? They don't seem to exist. Thanks for this video!
3:54 Clicks "Skulking predator"
yeah… 😀
Not so much of an ultimate guide, but all info appreciated.
WoW's "balance" is so busted that the only thing that actually matters = pick a class that is the flavor of the patch.
Me: Reaching 1800 week 1 when mainly pve.
Also me: I REALLY NEED TO WATCH THIS !
Honestly my best tip is get on discord with the people you que with from group finder make some friends with the same goals and grow togheter. This is how I got my first glad in bfa and hopefully how I will get it again in shadowlands 🙂
Thanks.
I play mistweaver monk with a warrior partner. If I don’t get two shotted we win everytime. The problem is we are getting over 1700 now and I can’t even get off two macros before a rogue two shots me or even if I pillar hide when I peak I instantly get wrecked, my partner sometimes will LOS me so I have to go out in the open or leave pillar etc which leaves me vulnerable. I can’t figure out if he is the problem or I am? I have full pvp gear etc
"You either win or you learn" man, did that get me thinking. Great positive mindset quote, guys! Keep it up!
As annoying as mirror matches is you learn a lot from them. You have to accept somewhere out there, there is someone who played your class longer or more effective. I struggled with this a lot. On DK i mained for years before going back to my Ret I learbed how to beat every single DK i duled. Im currently leaening this on ret now. I use to hate going against other ret pallies in arena until I learned even my favorite ret pallies loose in arena to mirror matches as well. My point is a great way to get better is playing against the same spec where the player is better.
You should put out some content around this and support this video creator. DH has been absolutely destroyed and blizzard need to do something about it. https://youtu.be/1ZssyVlbahE
win 11, lose 13.. gonna be a long road boys, have to push for that 70% win rate i guess
>Play class you enjoy
>Try not to deviate from the meta
Yeah lol. You can enjoy your holy priest all you want but after getting dumpstered by double melee you will just quit or reroll.
does anyone know a good spriest streamer?
2v2 Rated Arena Guide:
1. Bring a healer
Or
2. Be a healer
I think it's also important to mention not to overthink things when it comes to mentality. Especially if you can't tell for sure, because a lot of things will just come with time.
.. Or maybe youre playing against sub with good gear
Who are those guys at 9:08?
"pick a class u enjoy" – ok man, I always play non meta classes… not gonna play rogue or mage tho… struggling to survive more than 10 sec on my affliction lock
Well …. I got awesome UI. All the addons and stuff and over the years of playing WoW … I never looked at it. Using gladius or sarena since it came out, using big debuffs etc. Can't look at it 😀 I can only tunnel vision what is in front of me. Damn even using voice I am so focused I can't tell my partner a single thing. A single CD or even ask for dark angel 😀 I simply cannot do more than 1 thing at once. I literally can't even talk when gaming.
MELEE CLEAVE
This two words will skyrocket ur Rating
PS: Nerf sub Rogue Pog
It blows my mind that back in wrath/cata I hit 2200 on druid, warrior, priest and 2500 on shaman, took a few xpacs off and now I struggle at 1500. The fundamentals are the same, so I felt like after 100-200 games I'd be able to climb. But nah, hard stuck on multiple classes. Although I have played suboptimal comps just to play with friends.
Step 1: Know how to play your class and its role.
Step 2: Practice it in skirmishes/bg's and wpvp/duels
Step 3: know what comps your class and role play well in; learn the comp and how it plays
Step 4: find a team that will learn with you
Step 5: Que arenas….
its literally that simple guys…
Fucken loveee ur vids man im so hyped rn
8.) Reroll from Mistweaver.
In what universe is Duelist considered a low cr? :<
I feel like challenger is not a bad spot to be in right now if you aren't familiar with all classes and their abilities. It's very tough to get out of -1700 rating for someone who just plays on and off. I came back this expansion after I had reached 2.1k exp in WOTLK and 2k in legion, and it's much more difficult, for now at least. 1600 rating used to be mostly noobs in the past and now I saw gladiators there. Maybe it's temporary….
And don’t play outlaw I learned that the hard way
People just need to play more games. That’s literally it. You’re at that CR for a reason. I like to tell anyone who ask me how I got 2400 is to literally play the game. Be consistent with queueing 3s and make sure you have a stable group of players you can consistently play with. You can be too picky once you’re getting started and you can’t be that 2.2k player with that ego. People are willing to get better if you’re willing to give them a chance. That’s what I’ve learned and that’s how I’ve always managed to get high rated in arenas.
Playing affi,was doing 2s with 1 more dps. It was going good. We went to 1350 in short time. Alot of wins.. and then from. There i start geting low mmr enemys burst classes who oneshot us in few second.. i am losing like 16 rating.. and when i win i get 10 or even less. Its strange for me.. on that low rating to have that system. What is this all about i cant find on internet? Enemys from that rating start to be so good like in 2k rating..
I'm hardstuck at 1200 as feral druid, managed to hit 1560 with a healer last week but then lost it all again. I'm only doing 2v2 with random people though. Still makes me mad how I can be this shit at the game.
Arms/Ret/Disc. <——— Haven’t played in a couple years. Come back for shadowlands. Started 3’s a day ago and we played a couple hours last night. Currently right under 1500 rating. Melee is where it’s at right now guys. If you don’t global one of us at the beginning, you die.
I play on Tich, if you don’t have a 1900+ achieve you ain’t getting the invite..
What if my favorite class is fury warrior
Kick convoke, change my mind
Watching streamer that have high cr and plays my class helps me the most. Watching videos like this and more and u will get better I Promis. I was hard stuck 1800 and now im 2200. Give yourself time.
Ya anything below gladiator is “low cr” lmfao these guys are clowns
I could easily reach 1.8-1.9k in bfa from season 1 to 3 with my rogue and warrior, i took a break in season 4 and didnt play endgame content after got my curve in first week because fuck corruption it was so broken and i can’t even reach to 1.4k now, don’t know what went wrong with me 🙁