Let’s analyse the weapons from the League of Legends series ARCANE, released on netflix.
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I loved Powder/Jinx’s cannon, but for all the firepower it puts out, it does appear to be ineffective at actually hitting anything. Still, it does work well as a suppressing fire device . 8)
I am SOO gassed that Arcane is being reviewed! In my opinion Arcane is the best tv show of the decade perhaps past 2 decades
for the hextech gauntlets, rather than strengthening their user, i prefer the explanation that they are self levitating (levitation being the first demonstration of hextech power in the show), and they compensate their own weight and the weight of whatever you're holding or touching through the gauntlet. which explains how you can lift and move heavy things, and yet the users are clearly affected by the big mass and inertia of the gauntlets and whatever they are holding.
All of Vi's gauntlets were originally designed as mining implements (I don't think punching rocks would be too efficient, but ehh) so them being unwieldy as weapons would make sense.
The runes and other magic follows rules on a "character by character" basis mostly. Jayce's magic comes from his inventions, some races have trickstery magic (illusion, charms), other characters can channel antimagic energy so chaos magic then rushes into that void (none of those characters are likely to show up). Magic is more or less consistent for each member of the cast and there are overall patterns, but it is very hard to say "all magic acts like x or y" for Runeterra as a setting.
There are similarities between characters and styles of magic. Hextech is one of those mostly consistent groups. Magic tends to be an inconsistent thing though as a whole with no individual mage being able to do everything to an excellent degree.
I simply cannot get over the fact that me and someone I just recently got chill with watched the show, someone who started playing probably just a year ago and had no knowledge at all about Runeterra and it's characters (wich are the champions in the game ofc), yet the guy who got me into LoL 4 years ago, whos entire freetime revolves around playing LoL for almost a decade wasn't a little bit hyped about and was kinda uninterested aka didn't watched Arcane.
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Jinx is kinda weird. Stuff works for her because she's Jinx. She seems to have an innate magic that basically gives her a limited version of cartoon physics. Stuff like hammer space, bottomless clips, conveniently shaped smoke clouds/explosion shapes and weapons that seem to surpass the worlds normal tech in some ways.
The fresh water in a drought is such a good way to put it
I like the fact that the things i have wrong with the show are mostly nitpicky or related to wanting more episodes just for extra context on some storylines, like they reach a logical conclusion but i want more just to show that better
Shad. Considering you play DOTA. Can you make a video on that? Perhaps there arent many crazy weapons but maybe a disect their powers?
I don't think you should use realisme as wording.I largely prefer coherent, i think it makes more sense
You know arcane is shoved down everyone's throat when you see a video about it even here xD
season 2 was confirmed
There are 2 key scenes that havily implay how the first "Arcane Hextech" stuff works. The first is when Viktor and Jace aktivate the Arcane in Heimerdingers Office for the first time. They start levitating after activation of the arcane. So it seems like levitation is one of the easier things to accomplish with the arcane. This heavily implies that all hextech is actually levitating and therefore doesn't have weight and also makes stuff that gets lifted with them levitate. The 2nd Scene is when Vi gets her Gauntlet damaged and the arcane stopps working. She instantly drops the gauntlet to the ground because she can't even lift it anymore.
Side note on Sevika her arm joints can bend backwards so she would have less of an issue getting correct angles. I think this makes it much more effective, close to the levels a regular sword would have.
My biggest issue with Vi's Atlas Gauntlets is weight. While the glove may be articulated & enhance grip & force the ability to simply pick those monsters up. I can't think of a human who could (presuming even Titanium for weight) be able to pick up about 100lb, [46kg] and wield effectively. No matter how strong the user is if they can't lift the glove & the item picked up normally the glove really won't help much. I see a lot of snapped Radiai & Ulna bones being a problem. Yay Magic.
About Jinx's Gun: This is actually common in minigun depictions (with the exception of Sasha that is held by Heavy Weapons Guy): they seem more keen in showing the weight of a weapon during its usage. When there's a lull in the action, and the weapon needs to be present, the author is less conscious about what's going on with the cargo.
There it is a little moments in the fight in the fabric, where looks like Vi is flipped in the air by some way of propulsion in the gloves, making her do a fast spin in the air without falling
I like to imagine that the gauntlets have a gyroscope powered by the hex tech or just the gravity negating properties shown earlier with the crystals. So my idea is that anything that is partially enclosed in the palms will also have its gravity negated. Because you do see the gauntlet become too heavy to move after it's pierced. I'd say that's still consistent with hextech in general.
Dude if you like lol characters maybe make a video analyzing wepons from lol characters? I would love to watch that!
shimmer kind of gets explained. In episode 7 at 5:09 singed (the chemist guys with the fucked up face covered) says that there are variants of shimmer and it changes the nature of the subject. My theory from what the show says is that it acts like a glue. the rune magic on organic mater destroys it because it changes to violent but with shimmer it keeps it together. i think it works similar with organic mater and mechanics.
charakters lugging massive ass weapons around in leauge of legends:
Garen. a greatsword nearly the size of himself. there are hovever sevral indications he is something aking to a shdowrunn adept with among other things magical resistance and injury regeneration
Braum. dude caries a massive ass mettal door bigger than himself. shure he hefts it a lot but that thing is basikly a slab of metal. he is however an iceborne witch are shown to be superhuman
Renekton. batleth but with more mass. but the dide is a crokodile demigod so i think he goes as superhuman
Sivir. boomerang-X shaped thingy but it flies around to her comand so it is clearly self-powerd
Darius. a massive axe. but he does not heft it like its noting, he treats it as if its heavyer than Braums door.
Riven. massive sword but she is only realy holding the hilt, rest of it hovers
Nautilus. an aktual ancor but he is neither human or human-sized.
Aatrox + raast both owersized weapons but they are shown to drive their wielder/host far beond human limitations
Olaf. a pair of dane-axes but like Barum he is iceborne.
Mordekaiser. person-sized mace but he can levitate metal so its more of a clever use of existing powers. also like nautilus he is arguably not human annymore
Viego. massive zveihander buuuut he is LoL litch-king so he's undead nature may be giving him a boost
that is all of them i can personaly think of
I really like this show, he is great, but there are things that are strange or poor presented. The fire weapons seems a little inconsistent, you have automatic guns but some of the pistols look like old flintlocks. The way the city works blows my mind. You have this progressive, technological city that is a really important commercial pole in that world, but they have a class disparity of a third world country. Nothing of this took me out of the show, but the soundtrack is horrendous. I hate all the music they used.
i just want to point out vi's gauntlets is designed to be a mining tool not really a weapon. that explaining why it is not such efficient
Hmmm well dota is a mod of Warcraft and there are quite a few interesting similar types of magic in both.
14:50 You really hit the right spot in this one. In the game she even has an ability that breaks armor.
I think the magic will be used kinda like how it's used in x-men type stuff where you know what a specific character can do but you don't really know what the limits for magic as a whole is.
Shad: "no spoilers: Jinx has no superpowers for most of the show"
In other words:
Spoiler: Jinx gets superpowers at some point in the show
I still love you Shad but that one was a bit funky 😂
for oversized weapon in league most characters actually are too superhuman to even care:
-aatrox, basically a god war.
-tryndamere, the dude is so angry he can't die, and you're asking how he lift his sword? well… his right arm is a lot stronger than his left arm.
-braum, his giant shield is not even a shield, it's an indestructible door made by the forge god, he punched the mountain around it to dislodge the door because a kid was trapped inside…
-darius' and garen's weapons are kinda oversized, but not even that much, and both of them are described as peak humans, like olympic athletes are pussies.
-mordekaiser, he's a ghost possessing an armor, his own weight is pretty high and we can't presume of his strength.
-poppy, the hammer isn't that big, and yordles can be crazy strong, poppy is crazy strong.
and that's about it for big weapons, a few more like sion have big weapons, but they are as big.
Pointy Sticks!
10:22
You are absolutely correct.
You do need an exoskeleton!
And she has one!!!
In game that is…. :/ Her whole body is covered (especially the back ) in it to help her lift the massive gloves
And on the topic of fatality, Jayce said that they weren't meant to be weapons, but rather help miners.
Kinda like if zombies break your door and the closest thing you have is broom, you'll be like "Yeah, f it, this will do" and start smacking zombies left right and center because we all know that a stick is the best weapon
The true weapons of Arcane are crippling depression and loss…
A point of elaboration for Arcane: it's explicitly pointed out that those blue glowing gemstones are the only way for magic to be used by non-mages at that point in time. You can do alchemy and make potions and stuff, which is how Shimmer and most of the "chemtech" stuff like Sevika's arm works, but it's a huge plot point that the gemstones are the magical power source for all of the "true" magic enchantments seen in the show.
The upshot of this is that Jinx's minigun (and the rest of her equipment except for two very spoiler-y instances) is completely nonmagical, barring any alchemy used to make the explosives or whatever, so it being overly lightweight can only be explained by her being on Shimmer and having super-strength.
I actually think the Gauntlets negated weight rather than increased strength. As you noted if her strength was enhanced Vi should have done much better against Sevika. My logic, the first thing that happens when Hextech first starts working is, floating and a mini jump portal. Making gauntlets with mechanical fingers that can crush rocks while the system negates weight would be an easier sell to Heimerdinger who is completely worried about things being at risk of weaponization, Jayce and Viktor always try to keep this in mind before showing him things, and even discuss as much just prior. They are still weapons ultimately but they would be far more dangerous if they gave the user actual enhanced strength.
The person Vi fought 2 different times….had upgrades herself and was juiced up on the drug.
While I haven’t watched the series, as a big League player, Zaun/Piltover Magic is more like how a D&D artificer operates where if you have the tools and the power (Hextech Crystals essentially) you can get it to replicate magic.
League of legends is owned by the CCP through Tencent, stop giving these people any money and attention. You are funding genocide and a tyrannical regime.
I think the thing that makes the most sense to me for Vi's gauntlets is that they have some form of levitation magic to them but still retain their mass. You can see that when they are unpowered they are very heavy and the only thing they do that is super human (that I can think of) is crush the boulder, which was completely dependent on the gauntlets, not the users strength. I really like this idea that the magic just makes the weapon less effected by gravity but it still retains its mass and momentum so when you get it moving it still packs a punch (pun intended).