It’s an Astartes-off in this latest Tactica, but can Spider make the once feared Grey Knights work again in 9th, or will Bone and the reliable Space Marines stop his efforts?
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The Army Lists are:
Grey Knights
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [115 PL, 2,000pts, 11CP] ++
+ Stratagems +
Armoury of Titan [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic
+ HQ +
Brother-Captain [7 PL, 118pts]: Edict Imperator, Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
Librarian [6 PL, 108pts]: Empyrean Domination, Sanctic Shard, Warp Shaping
Nemesis Warding Stave
Storm Bolter: Storm Bolter
Lord Kaldor Draigo [10 PL, 190pts]: Armoured Resilience, Ethereal Manipulation
+ Troops +
Terminator Squad [11 PL, 190pts]: Hammerhand
Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
4x Terminator (Halberd): 4x Nemesis Force Halberd, 4x Storm Bolter
Terminator Squad [11 PL, 190pts]: Hammerhand
Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
4x Terminator (Halberd): 4x Nemesis Force Halberd, 4x Storm Bolter
Terminator Squad [11 PL, 190pts]: Hammerhand
Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
4x Terminator (Halberd): 4x Nemesis Force Halberd, 4x Storm Bolter
+ Elites +
Paladin Ancient [6 PL, 105pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Augurium Scrolls, Ethereal Manipulation, Warlord
Storm Bolter and Falchion: Nemesis Falchion, Storm Bolter
Paladin Squad [15 PL, 250pts]: Sanctuary
4x Paladin (Halberd): 4x Nemesis Force Halberd, 4x Storm Bolter
Paragon: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 143pts]: Gate of Infinity, Multi-melta
Dreadnought Combat Weapon
Stom Bolter: Storm Bolter
Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 143pts]: Gate of Infinity, Multi-melta
Dreadnought Combat Weapon
Stom Bolter: Storm Bolter
Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 143pts]: Gate of Infinity, Multi-melta
Dreadnought Combat Weapon
Stom Bolter: Storm Bolter
+ Fast Attack +
Interceptor Squad [14 PL, 230pts]: Astral Aim
9x Interceptor (Halberd): 9x Nemesis Force Halberd, 9x Storm Bolter
Interceptor Justicar: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Halberd
++ Total: [115 PL, 2,000pts, 11CP] ++
Space Marines
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium – Adeptus Astartes – Imperial Fists) ++
+ HQ +
Lieutenants
Primaris Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Master-crafted auto bolt rifle
Primaris Captain: Rites of War, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord
Master-crafted auto bolt rifle
+ Troops +
Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle
4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Intercessor Sergeant
Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle
4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Intercessor Sergeant
Intercessor Squad: Bolt rifle
4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Intercessor Sergeant
+ Elites +
Redemptor Dreadnought: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
Redemptor Dreadnought: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
Redemptor Dreadnought: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
+ Fast Attack +
Inceptor Squad: 5x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2
Inceptor Squad: 5x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2
++ Outrider Detachment -3CP (Imperium – Adeptus Astartes – Imperial Fists) ++
+ HQ +
Primaris Techmarine
+ Fast Attack +
Suppressor Squad
2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
Suppressor Squad
2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
Suppressor Squad
2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
++ Total: [94 PL, 2,000pts] ++
Source
I guess you guys caught the point where the Inceptors would be overcharging despite it being overkill, but then you guys didn't resolve the overcharge rolls. Felt a bit odd since this is one of the things that keeps these guys' in the stratosphere, as they're still so good.
Great game! Mission was key. Different mission, different game
Awesome watch guys 🙂 i'm loving that you are doing more alliance v alliance games recently. Keeps it so fresh.
What does bone think about arming his Redemptors up with the Macro-Plasmas to throw ap-3 thunder hammers downfield and taking advantage of the IF super doc? Although i know bone will probably roll 1's or 2's for the amount of shots …. 😅😅
Good game. I've seen a few armies try the counter attack turn 2 with their more lethal units. The board control early typically has won out in the games I've seen but this was pretty close. Holding the point after you leave it cannot be underestimated.
best joke 10:10
Since this is a tactica I will try to give my thoughts to Bone's Space Marines:
1. I think deep striking the inceptors might have been a mistake, espacially when opting to go 2nd.
When having so many pts in reserve, I think it's almost always best to go 1st. Even if you can't do much turn 1, turn 2 you can bring some pain.
And you want to bring that pain before your opponent's turn 2.
2. Chief Apothecary with selfless healer warlord trait, sooo good with gravis armor marines. Bringing back 3 wounds of T5 marine every turn + healing the wounded in the squad back to full hp + 6+++ aura for infantry/bikers. Cutting the inceptor squads from 6 to 5 men would be enough to squeeze this in. He would most likely ressurect 3 or more inceptors/supressors. So it's not really like you're actually cutting anything from the army.
3. I'd say go for Macro Plasma Incinerator instead of the Heavy Onslaught for the Redemptors. High strength and AP, 2-3 damage. It shreds vehicles and elite infantry. And you still have the normal onslaught gattling cannon in case you need some anti horde shooting.
I've been watching for 6 months now (thank you for the content). But, I have a question; does ANYONE own any clothing that isn't black?
Thank you and happy new year !
It's ok Bone, we all get confused about the new spacessor marinedicator names
B Bone becomes a snoremaris simp? What a sad way to kick off the new year..
I am becoming less and less a fan of the 9th ed missions as it offten seems to end a bit early with a quick calculation and a lets not bother to finish. I miss the hell mary moments of older missions, that said i have not had the opatunity to play them much and i do appreciate GW making up new misios to keep the game fresh.
Bone looking pretty svelte these days. Nice one.
Love those Inceptors. But not split firing with the 1st squad in turn 2 was brutal. 1/6 of the squad fired and killed the Dread. The other 5 could have taken out the big squad of terminators next to him. Would have made a big difference.
I can't abide imperial in-fighting. That being said, good game 👍
Lol Lawrence: "Bone just has to roll well and I have to fail my saves"… once we hear this it is time to pour another drink and just enjoy the epic-ness that is Ben. I think the Black Templars would have been an interesting counter to the GK, at least having a save vs all the smites. Great job as usual to the whole TTT Team for your amazing content!
Great content guys! Also remember that icarus rocket pods aren’t penalized for non-flying anymore!
Thought it was a nice change to not see eradicator spam in a marine list tbh 🙂 Bone could try taking 3 ATVs , big movement quite tanky and some decent shooting for a turn or 2 while they live , especially with your redempts . be a choice for someone to make what to shoot down first
Nice to see some Grey Knights as well …
Would be cool to see a more defensive style of grey knight army. Like 20 pallies for example. There’s a team tournament coming up with a very good GK list. Downunderpairings > gladiator gaming team tournament > leaderboard > strength cartel
It can do its damage really passively with gate on the pallies, edict and astral aim so you’re maximising the shooting tide with psi bolt and using the stealth tide in tandem with the defensive buffs when you need them. Depends on play style preference though I guess
I came for the human peanut. I stayed for the human peanut. Oh, and Laurence was there too. Which is nice, I guess. 🤓
I say this as an admech player, lore wise not all of the forge worlds like cawl. Game wise I say punch Cawl in his face as well. The hollow heart that has bestowed the Solar Blessing upon me does not need "Mr. Primaris" maker.
Why did Lawrence take the Paladins from the back in Bone’s first turn, rather than the front to make the Redemptor’s charge longer?
space marines vs space marines with grey and smite! ooooo ahhhh
For someone who hasnt played since 5th, this was very informative and easy to follow. And you both had just the right amount of persona to keep me watching. Lold a few times with the banter. 13 minis to go for my own 2k point 9th edition army, and im more excited than ever after watching this. thanks heaps guys. keep up the great content. cheers from NZ
“You did good there buddy”, Bones pained comment on Lawrence saying he wasted CP on his paladins taking no damage from the redemptor due to his insane rolls 😆
Suppressors!!!! YES!! great video guys 🙂
Are command re rolls 1 dice like in 8th edition, or do you have to reroll the entire roll?
The power of the turnip is strong with the bone
A great BatRep guys. As usual. Thanks to poopy COVID I haven't had a game in months. So, (YET AGAIN) I'm going to miss out on the Blood Angels having a decent book.
Great stuff
Bone, don't give up, man! You're not a husk, you're a proud plant, eager to stand you ground! Your turf, so to say. Those moustache of yours are going to crawl back. It is your choice eather to forgive them of not for that foul treachery.
Points are garbage! You are not playing half a game, even if you can destroy enemy army. This brokes the game entirely. Points have to go.
Great game, guys. Goes to show, you just gotta hold those objectives, no matter how much you kill or the models you lose.
you guys are smashing it
Spider you are giving false hope to Grey Knight players everywhere! Did you prefer the strategy used here with 1×10 interceptors and using all the terminators out of deep strike or what you did a couple months ago with the 3×5 intercessors smite spamming aggressively turn 1 while holding mid board with the terminators?
Awesome game as always! Thanks a lot 🕷️& 🍖! 🖤
Play on tabletop may have you ever so slightly beat in production quality (even tho yours has been really good lately). The amount of content you guys put out is insane tho. These battle reports and the awesome army reviews. For this reason I really do think you guys are the best 40k channel. I mean you are too quality and actually crank videos out at it. Also Bone always makes the videos good. Even if ya know the results from the start lol.
Commenting late here, but I think that deep striking may not have been right for Bone this game. Lost the ability to pressure the center for that 1 turn without plasma. Maybe.
I think Tactical marines are stronger than Intercessors overall. VS most elite units, a Tac. squad heavy weapon, will average more damage, than 5 Stalker bolt rifles, by itself. But Intercessors are probably better, on average, vs swarm's, because of their extra melee attack + CP options.
Also, If the assault cannon's have magnets maybe go for plasma Dreadnought's to add more armor pen? Or the Suppressors could be replaced for higher AP units as Bone said.
However, Suppressors could be used as low cost deep strike unit for objectives. Though, Reivers might be a bit better for that, just with less flexibility since they specialize in melee. A Lieutenant with jet pack might be the lowest cost deepstrike unit for marines.
I don't know why but I can't stand people that throw their dice across the table.
20 minutes of this video was picking up dice……
i'm always rooting for you bbone! you need to check spider's dice, they're weighted
I don’t know how it’s taken me so long but Lawrence is literally Ross from Friends it makes me laugh so hard.
So this a question for mainly Spider and the Chef (who are the GK players of TT). The Forgeworld datasheet for the GK land raider (Banisher), has the new <BROTHERHOOD> keyword. In your opinion, does that mean GKs could be getting sub-factions similar to DG's <PLAGUE COMPANY> rules. That is, a bonus WLT, Relic and Stratagem per 6-8 Brotherhoods that was expanded in the lore from the 8Ed GK Codex…? Wouldn't that be cool?
Grey knights are always a treat! I think that both lists were very interesting! I appreciate the experimentation!
That is my experience with 10 man interceptors. They fire turn 1, they die turn 1. So flimsy.
I thoroughly enjoy games with Lawrence. Also really like the tactica format. Really hated the background music in this video. It was incredibly distracting hearing that voice slightly in the background.
These Tactica battle reports are a gold mine for a new player like me! Thanks for all your great work!