Horror! My favorite genre. I’m going to leave a few notes on the subject for anyone interested. Mild spoilers for The Shining and huge spoilers for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre below. I might post this all to Reddit so it doesn’t just decompose in a low-view video.
There are some creepypastas which are as great as mainstream horror novels: Penpal, Ted the Caver, On a Hill, Psychosis, The Spire in the Woods, The Left Right Game, Borrasca, Mayhem Mountain, Ansani’s Goat-man Story, etc. In fact, Spielberg’s producing a movie based off of The Spire in the Woods, which in my opinion is one of the greatest horror stories to get released in the 2010s. Not for the quality of its horror, but for the quality of its coming-of-age narrative. The best way to read these stories is to listen to someone narrate them on YouTube, because that really captures the campfire spirit of the them. I kinda hate how people have this impression of them as just shock-horror garbage, when there are so many which are better than some of Stephen King’s and Dean Koontz’s novels.
Here’s a Stephen King quote about the type of horror Vaush was talking about: “Terror, when you come home and notice everything you own had been taken away and replaced by an exact substitute. It's when the lights go out and you feel something behind you, you hear it, you feel its breath against your ear, but when you turn around, there's nothing there…”
I actually think one of the most effective ways of constructing a horror scene is to let the reader know there exists some evil entity within some space that a character must enter. Then, when that character enters the space, have everything seem normal as the character looks around for the evil entity. Really draw out the mundanity of the space. Over-describe the shadows under the bed, the flickering light, the drab color of the walls, etc. Then, when the character confronts the entity, imbue the entity with some unexpected characteristic. Maybe you only see a finger coming from out a drain hole, have the entity appear as a beautiful woman, have them hold an unrelenting smile, etc. I realized this was a common tactic authors employed after reading The Shining by Stephen King, when Jack has to go to the room where Danny encountered some spirit that strangled him.
Speaking of The Shining, what to me makes Kubrick’s adaptation of The Shining so excellent is how he makes the hotel symbolic of horror in and of itself. For example, the movie references the Native American genocide and the Holocaust throughout not bc there’s some implicit correlation between the narrative and those atrocities, but rather because the hotel is comprised of the kind of evil which made those atrocities possible.
The Shining isn’t my favorite horror movie however. That honor goes to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. There’s so much to say about what makes this movie great: the chaotic editing which in and of itself makes the viewer on edge, never sure of when a shot will transition to another; the senselessness of the violence — I.e. the fact there seems to be no motivation to the family’s actions that the audience can relate to, and make the terror seem somehow explicable (one great example of this is the old man being forced by his family to kill the girl with the hammer, but being to feeble to be able to do so); some of the shots within the movie (the windmill cutting the sun as it sets, Leatherface swinging his chainsaw in a violent frenzy right before the film cuts to black, the sequence of close ups to the protagonist’s eyes as she sits at the dinner table waiting to be served); and just the realism of the deaths. There’s no squirming. There’s very little gore. A character is killed, they flop around a little, and then they lie prone. I could also talk another the underlying themes of the movie. How the movie is sort of a pro-vegetarian movie, as it shows humans being treated like cattle. How it’s kind of Marxist, in that it parodies what the American family business needs to resort to to survive corporate monopolization (in this case, the meatpacking industry). The movie can also be seen as rejecting the notion that humanity has become more civilized the more we’ve progressed technologically.
Ok, I can’t believe I wrote all this (that’s what taking 2 years of college literature classes will do to you), but I have an upcoming class.
On the rival pokemon thing, it is implied in the first Pokemon that you accidentally kill Garys Raticate and that the ghost you find is the ghost of that pokemon. Gen1 was wild lmfao
Ooh! When Vaush started speaking of haveing a 'hub room' where things start to change… It reminded me of The Evil Within and how it establishes your save area as a safe space.
The game itself to a friend and I was honestly not that scary (we laughed our asses off at glitches, etc) but when the save area started changing it was unsettling.
I don't have good sources, but I've got the impression that Lovecraft was a weird inverted version of a useful idiot. Apparently a bunch of his friends and a good portion of his readers were the very people he was bigoted against, willingly misinterpreting his fears in more justified contexts. Turns out the entire universe being against you to an impossible-to-understand degree is exactly how many many victims of societal bigotry have felt to this day.
I honestly think that the problem with Cosmic horror video games is that they dip into the C'thulu Mythos (or Yog'Sothothery). This a) is too familiar, and b) incentivizes using iconic monsters (shoggoths, star-spawn, etc.) as enemies that you need to beat. If I'm not mistaken, the most successful cosmic horror games use an origional IP.
I feel as though a great horror game to play that describes the unrelenting anxiety and terror I have ever had the pleasure of going through was Darkwoods. Seriously, try that game out. It is fantastic.
Yet again. Vaush has an insanely vague understanding of a given subject, but feels the need to voice his opinion on it. But Allah beware someone on the right does the same, then they are in for a good hour of Vaush playing the semantic game.
Lovecraft getting owned in this debate
New upload. Thank you
Vaush should play silent hill games
Vaush bad. Vaush bad.
Maupin > Vaush
Vaush's Nightmare sounds like how I feel everyday.
Horror! My favorite genre. I’m going to leave a few notes on the subject for anyone interested. Mild spoilers for The Shining and huge spoilers for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre below. I might post this all to Reddit so it doesn’t just decompose in a low-view video.
There are some creepypastas which are as great as mainstream horror novels: Penpal, Ted the Caver, On a Hill, Psychosis, The Spire in the Woods, The Left Right Game, Borrasca, Mayhem Mountain, Ansani’s Goat-man Story, etc. In fact, Spielberg’s producing a movie based off of The Spire in the Woods, which in my opinion is one of the greatest horror stories to get released in the 2010s. Not for the quality of its horror, but for the quality of its coming-of-age narrative. The best way to read these stories is to listen to someone narrate them on YouTube, because that really captures the campfire spirit of the them. I kinda hate how people have this impression of them as just shock-horror garbage, when there are so many which are better than some of Stephen King’s and Dean Koontz’s novels.
Here’s a Stephen King quote about the type of horror Vaush was talking about: “Terror, when you come home and notice everything you own had been taken away and replaced by an exact substitute. It's when the lights go out and you feel something behind you, you hear it, you feel its breath against your ear, but when you turn around, there's nothing there…”
I actually think one of the most effective ways of constructing a horror scene is to let the reader know there exists some evil entity within some space that a character must enter. Then, when that character enters the space, have everything seem normal as the character looks around for the evil entity. Really draw out the mundanity of the space. Over-describe the shadows under the bed, the flickering light, the drab color of the walls, etc. Then, when the character confronts the entity, imbue the entity with some unexpected characteristic. Maybe you only see a finger coming from out a drain hole, have the entity appear as a beautiful woman, have them hold an unrelenting smile, etc. I realized this was a common tactic authors employed after reading The Shining by Stephen King, when Jack has to go to the room where Danny encountered some spirit that strangled him.
Speaking of The Shining, what to me makes Kubrick’s adaptation of The Shining so excellent is how he makes the hotel symbolic of horror in and of itself. For example, the movie references the Native American genocide and the Holocaust throughout not bc there’s some implicit correlation between the narrative and those atrocities, but rather because the hotel is comprised of the kind of evil which made those atrocities possible.
The Shining isn’t my favorite horror movie however. That honor goes to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. There’s so much to say about what makes this movie great: the chaotic editing which in and of itself makes the viewer on edge, never sure of when a shot will transition to another; the senselessness of the violence — I.e. the fact there seems to be no motivation to the family’s actions that the audience can relate to, and make the terror seem somehow explicable (one great example of this is the old man being forced by his family to kill the girl with the hammer, but being to feeble to be able to do so); some of the shots within the movie (the windmill cutting the sun as it sets, Leatherface swinging his chainsaw in a violent frenzy right before the film cuts to black, the sequence of close ups to the protagonist’s eyes as she sits at the dinner table waiting to be served); and just the realism of the deaths. There’s no squirming. There’s very little gore. A character is killed, they flop around a little, and then they lie prone. I could also talk another the underlying themes of the movie. How the movie is sort of a pro-vegetarian movie, as it shows humans being treated like cattle. How it’s kind of Marxist, in that it parodies what the American family business needs to resort to to survive corporate monopolization (in this case, the meatpacking industry). The movie can also be seen as rejecting the notion that humanity has become more civilized the more we’ve progressed technologically.
Ok, I can’t believe I wrote all this (that’s what taking 2 years of college literature classes will do to you), but I have an upcoming class.
On the rival pokemon thing, it is implied in the first Pokemon that you accidentally kill Garys Raticate and that the ghost you find is the ghost of that pokemon. Gen1 was wild lmfao
Glitches can make an otherwise chill experience, unsettling
Ooh! When Vaush started speaking of haveing a 'hub room' where things start to change… It reminded me of The Evil Within and how it establishes your save area as a safe space.
The game itself to a friend and I was honestly not that scary (we laughed our asses off at glitches, etc) but when the save area started changing it was unsettling.
I would play the shit out of that northern french woods Inquisition game
I don't have good sources, but I've got the impression that Lovecraft was a weird inverted version of a useful idiot. Apparently a bunch of his friends and a good portion of his readers were the very people he was bigoted against, willingly misinterpreting his fears in more justified contexts. Turns out the entire universe being against you to an impossible-to-understand degree is exactly how many many victims of societal bigotry have felt to this day.
I honestly think that the problem with Cosmic horror video games is that they dip into the C'thulu Mythos (or Yog'Sothothery). This a) is too familiar, and b) incentivizes using iconic monsters (shoggoths, star-spawn, etc.) as enemies that you need to beat. If I'm not mistaken, the most successful cosmic horror games use an origional IP.
I feel as though a great horror game to play that describes the unrelenting anxiety and terror I have ever had the pleasure of going through was Darkwoods. Seriously, try that game out. It is fantastic.
I feel like at least 50% of vaush’s chat are just abject contrarians
Trick question a good horror game is one where the developers are treated with respect and no crunch time
Yet again. Vaush has an insanely vague understanding of a given subject, but feels the need to voice his opinion on it.
But Allah beware someone on the right does the same, then they are in for a good hour of Vaush playing the semantic game.
The Suffering Prison is Hell and The Suffering Ties that Bind were amazing. Especially if we're talking about optics. Criminally underrated game
Can't wait till someone remakes Ocarina of Time for PC and makes it free, and then turns out he was a Vaush fan.