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"Back then you had almost a 0% chance of getting offrole if you queued mid second."
Nowadays you have 0% chance of geting main role if you queue jungle second.
What about glacial augment or phase rush?
if u build her lethality u can oneshot a lot of champs
I haven't played LoL in ages! And I used to play a ton back in 2016. I'm taking a look at the playlist of "Why NO ONE Plays" and I feel so sad because there are so many champions that used to be played so much when I was playing. But I guess meta changes a lot
she is actually so good just boring, need to hit q though or ur fucked
Id love to see one for Rell. She came out and i swear i saw her like 5 times. Now feels incredibly rare
Her win rate is rly good right now but she gets no attention
My worst enemies are elise, trundles and Volis. And sometimes, shyvannas.
The rest for my are so easy to kill like a katarina pressing r without knowing i will stun her with my Q and make her suffer to force her E or Flash then chase her with r and. Well you know the rest.
Vi its my love at first sight literally, the first Loading Screen champion i saw, the first Song, and first play. Nothing ever would changer that never, doesnt matter the patch or buff/nerfs.
Correct on the rework problem. It really lowered here potential.
I think she is on a ok spot. I don`t like a big rework on her. (I think single target lockdown champions like malzahar and vi are nice and something different!)
But … She's so cool.
why do u say vi isnt burst heavy? thats literaly stupid
In my conclusion she is just a worse Camille. Lock down one target, burst potential, unmissable Q etc etc.
making Assault and Battery give her a 5 second speed boost would make her work.
If you hit a wall… hit it hard.
Unless they fixed it at some point her Q would actually go further if she had higher Movement speed
Her biggest weakness is subpar teamfighting (her lockdown, while good is mostly single target, Q is technically AoE but it's small so it's hard to get multiple opponents with it). She is honestly almost an assassin with how good her burst can be when built for and hard to get away from she is, but, like Diana, she lacks any real damage/ability avoidance mechanism that most actual assassins have. Her subpar teamfighting is why she isn't all that popular now, as the meta heavily favors teamfight champions (notice how many well-known split-pushers aren't as popular as they used to be? This is why.)
2:30 Vi does not lack burst at all if built properly. What she lacks that Renekton and Diana have is AoE burst.
4:12 Proper Vi combo for burst is Q (landed) into auto+E (for attack timer reset and 2nd auto). This pops W, then R, auto, E (2nd W pops). This is generally enough to 100-0 a squishy and comes packed with a lot of CC and the R can't be avoided at all (and generally puts you right next to them, barring interference of other displacement effects on you by enemies). You also have the free AS from your W as soon as the Q+auto+E (and attacking again) is done, so now your dueling is very good too. Spellblade is pretty good on her, but it's also not mandatory to build on her and I often don't end up building spellblade on her at all (I prefer Duskblade for mythic in most games, but Trinity Force is also great on her).
5:30 bad comparisons here, a good comparison would be with Xin Zhao (who was pretty popular fairly recently, though not on NA from what I saw). Who, incidentally, has the same 'problem'.
I have a feeling that Vi is actually fine, and that her lack of popularity is mostly a function of people not knowing how to properly build and skill her (max Q>W>E; Q first is kinda obvious, frontloadable dmg and lower CD on mobility is vital, W 2nd over E is because W gives more with ranks than E does, you only need 1 pt in E to get most of it's value, so don't put anymore into it until you have to because those extra points aren't giving you much return on investment). As for itemization: Vi is a very bursty AD diver and builds as such. She gets enough free AS from her W (which is, contrary to Vars thinking, pretty easy to proc since ability hits count) that you don't really ever need to build AS, but some incidental AS on otherwise good items is fine (Trinity Force, for example). This means your main offensive stat is AD, that's all you really need to do good damage. Because her W provides free % armor reduction (this is better than pen because your allies phys dmg also benefits), and % max hp damage that scales with your AD, even killing tankier opponents is easier than you might expect. That said, because you naturally lower enemy armor, Lethality (flat armor pen) is even more efficient than normal (by 25% when W debuff is applied to the target), and is worth getting to maximize burst v. squishy targets. As a diver, she generally wants enough defenses so that you don't get blown up right away for diving in, and the rest of your gold should go into damage (contrast with actual Juggernauts like Darius and Sion where this is the other way around; enough damage to be a threat, rest of gold into defense so you live for a long time under fire and thus continue to be a problem for as long as possible). This generally means that you don't really need to build defensive stats until 3rd non-boot item (so you can go for up to mythic+1 other fully offensive item before needing to get defensive stats, assuming you're doing decently well and no enemy is really fed), and even then, you generally won't build full defensive stat items (except perhaps 1 out of a full 6 item build). Items that gives AD+defensive stat are all pretty good choices to get some defenses while still continuing to grow your damage output. Lethality is nice to get, especially early and even more so when ahead. Ability Haste is very good on Vi as it helps your stickiness quite a bit and having your ult on a low CD is extremely helpful so that you can feel free to use it liberally to get picks and other good fights (I've actually had over 100 Ability Haste in an actual game before and it's super nice).
My two favorite core builds are:
Assassin Vi:
Duskblade of Drakkthar -> Ravenous Hydra
and
Brawler VI:
Trinity Force -> Sterak's Gage (later, get Titanic Hydra)
The assassin build is my favorite for Summoner's Rift, as it has incredible snowball potential when played well and can literally 1-combo squishies from 100-0 pretty much all game long. It is, however, not as good at teamfighting, so you will need to play around that and do more split-pushing and finding picks during rotations or you won't be able to turn your lead into a game W consistently.
The brawler build is probably a safer build, but it doesn't quite have the burst or snowball potential of the assassin build. However, you're much tankier and so you can more reliably contribute to teamfights (I generally use this build in ARAM because that mode is constant teamfighting so the teamfightning prowess of the brawler build is highly valued in ARAM). As for runes, I run Electrocute with assassin build, grasp w/ brawler build (again typically in ARAM).
9:30 Pro tip: If you miss Q you still generally end up really near them. In this case, auto them, E, then auto a 3rd time to get your 3 hits and AS quickly (you can auto-E-E if you're desperate to get dmg down fast, but it's better to use e after a regular auto to maximize the value of the animation cancel). Not to mention hold a charge of E so you can activate your innate passive as soon as it's back off CD is really helpful in close duels.
13:10 The mini-rework happened precisely because the type of high-burst Vi build that I most enjoy playing was actually OP and needed to be nerfed, and they did it while giving compensation so that her more brawly styles would be more worth considering, and in that respect, it was a very good and healthy change (they didn't even trim that much the burst either).
As a Vi main, it hurts.
Korean pros right now seeing this video like “huhhhhhh”
Vi is meta in wild rift
She's a diver who's even better at countering other divers.
Play her like a tight end in football. She can peel for your squishes; making enemies like Irelia die inside.
Vi no one plays Why
I've actually been playing Vi as my only jungler for a bit and I gotta say you're right. I actually play her Dark Harvest, Dusk Blade and if the enemy knows what they're doing it's very easy to get destroyed. If they don't respect me though they run into a farmed up Vi smacking someone going invis on kill then coming out of invis with a fist to someone else's face. She's extremely feast or famine with her current stats which is sad because she's so damn cool and fun to play.
Beacuse jax, yi, lee, xin zhao, exists
i always have in my head that if camille is open pick then don't play vi
I mained her for several seasons, its almost exactly as u said, she can feel clunky and shes rly dependant on hitting her q, the one part i would disagree is that she doesnt have a very fast clear, she gets outpaced by a lot of junglers, although her clear is relatively healthy, if they made her q cast time scale with lvls or something else she would finaly be worthy of picking, anyways rly good and informative video i enjoyed it.
She was fun when Stridebreaker had a dash. Miss those Q Stridebreaker combos
I play Vi 🙁
My main
because people dont like always winning trades and insta killing late game
I love Vi. She's my biggest League crush and one of my all time favorite champs.
But I'm bad at JG so I sadly don't play her
you don't know a lot of Vi sorry to say, has a lot of wrong informations in this video. Vi have only one thing that make's her out… Sorry but it's nothing of this things.
Well yeah she has these problems with the standard build… BUT i played a lot with her (like 200k mastery points) and i figured out that hail of blades with kraken slayer works amazing, if you buy like a BOTRK you will be the king of jungles.
An alternative is the eclipse Vi with electrocute, that also worked just fine.
With aftershock and turbo chemtank you can easily chase down enemies.
And for the last time hear me out: Support Vi isn't bad, actually you can take exhaust and stridebreaker to chase them down better. If the enemy support is a tank you can just melt them down.
Love Vi, but I haven't mained her, or even played her much in years. She's super fun as a new jungler, but her kit always did feel like it was lacking a little something, and beyond that her skill ceiling just isn't very high. Not a problem for everyone, but I get a bit bored playing her too much.
I dont really agree with most of this
About 2/3rds of the discussions in video and comments can be dealt with by items or runes