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Make his passive do one thing, it is literally that simple like almost every other solution.
I'm intrigued by this rework but considering how Riot designed most champions in recent years they would cut half of your ideas. It's just way too complicated. The biggest problem I see is that his abilities (mostly his Q) have multiple power stages and I cant see how opponents (especially those that have never (successfully) played this Ryze) have any idea what Ryze can do at any given moment. It's similar to Aphelios when his weapons werent shown on his health bar, but with no real way to fix it imo. Depending on his weapon choice Aphelios can only do so much stuff but it's clear for every player what that is before you have an encounter.
This Ryze version has 4 different outcomes alone on his Q:
– simple (AOE) damage without flux (aka tickling the opponent)
– increased (AOE) damage with flux
– empowered (AOE) damage with more speed, range and an execute
– empowered (super AOE) damage with more speed, range, execute and more damaging followup when flux was on the target
That's more or less 4 different scenarios when playing against Ryze that you have to consider. Does he deal little, moderate or high damage? Can I space properly or do I get hit by a longrange Q I wasnt prepared for? Can I tank the damage to go for a kill myself or do I die to the increased followup damage? Do I have to flash or Zonyas the Q because otherwise the damage spreads to my team? He keeps generating movementspeed on spellcasts but every time I see it the value of said increase differs.
I really like the concept of empowering abilities, but having 2 sources of empowerment in his Ult and Flux with different interactions between those gives too much variance to make any sense of this guy unless you are an OTP. It's even worse when you play against or with him and I dont see how UI is able to show you what Ryze is capable of before he can do it. Maybe he gets a 3rd ressource bar like Corki with 1 point for every 10 stacks of Arcane? Basically this version overcomplicates his kit and the only people understanding and utilizing it to a reasonable extent are high elo and pro players. In other words, this version brings us back to old problems (you remove his teleport ult to weaken him in proplay and give him an AOE root?).
The most important criticism aside, I dont understand why he needs 10 stacks for an empowered ability. The way I understand the rework it's about Ryze building up his own power spike window in the neutral game and then capitalizing on it. If that's the case how are you supposed to cast 10 spells before you can capitalize on it? It makes sense for laning phase and on sidelane but that destroys his teamfighting capabilities. The way I see it you want to have at least 10 stacks before you activate your Ult so you can cast your empowered Flux followed by Q for AOE or W for cc, but getting to those 10 stacks sounds very unreliable. I propose that you get 2 stacks on champion hit (maybe that was the idea from the start but I didnt get that from your explanation). Unless it's supposed to be "clunky" and Ryze isnt supposed to leave a lane and act as a splitpusher.
That being said, I appreciate the effort and encouragement to theorycraft in the comments. The AOE root sounds pretty cool and he retains his combo spellslinging identity and gains more depth. It's sad that I cant see a future where Ryze gets a similar treatment unless Riot treats him as a "proplay only champ".
funny how you're bringing up FFBE as I open up the game
Make each ability require two button presses. Ie QQ QW QE and each will be their own abilitie. Then each ability is just one version of a Ryse rework. R is big protle
I haven't played with Ryze in ages so there may be something I'm not getting but, aren't Flux and Empowerment redundant? Both of them add an special effect to abilities and with Arcane stacks on top of it, he seems a bit overloaded for such a simple concept. Wouldn't it be possible to fuse 2 of these or maybe change his ult?
Thank you for the content Vars! I've been enjoying learning about league from you.
Plz do more of this
Nah
I think for a ryze rework it should go for the cassio route. realy hammer home that one ability is essentialy all of his damage, put it on a low cooldown and make it play off of the other abilities in a more meaningfull way than: its now aoe. and give this man an ultimate that isn't a pro play only ability
I replayed the video twice but i cant really grasp how you get the empowered effect ? Is it every 3 unique casts ? Or is it on anything that is not overload, like it is at the moment ?
4:04 Doesn’t veigar AA also scale with AP? Late game his AA dmg is pretty insane thanks to his scaling
Very cool video!
I've been playing league since 2012 and I have never cared to learn how to play ryze correctly.
Everytime I get him in ARAM or I randomly play him in normals I just QWEQWEWQEQWEQR regardless of his current rework
Personally I would do the following: hold the current passive as it is and adding the mark mechanic in it. Basically the following: q and w mark unmarked enemies while q,w and e consume marks when hitting enemies.
The for q. Similar as the one he has.
A single projectile that hit the first enemy hit.when it consume a mark it will spread a damage wave that also consume nearby marks to create new damage waves.
W .target damge plus slow that turns into stun when marked is consumed (same as now)
E. Can only be casted on a marked unit to consume the mark and start spreading marks to nearby enemies spreading further an furnther similar to the new q wave . Has 1 sec CD but increase cost per additional cast within 3 secs.
Ult. A steroid cdr buff that also grants bonus Ms and spell vamp for 8 secs. Consuming marks will reduce the CD while it is on CD. Goes on CD when its duration ends.
you should do taliyah, azir, or neeko. i’d like to see how you’d fix them.
Don't you dear theroycraft my rock Malphite. He is perfect
"The concept of a high dps mage goes against the mage class"
Brand: My passive makes your entire argument irrelevant
Wait, Why Everyone Plays failed lmao?
Your analysis in the first half was cool but it was hard to follow the proposed rework. Some basic animation would help a lot to illustrate your points
Please make a video like this on Rek'Sai.
I think Riot missed so much potential with her being the "Mother" of the void hoard, but not having any "minions" like Malzhahar and Yorick. It would be SO COOL if she used mini void monsters to farm, set out traps and gank. All the while having tunnels and other shenanigans. I think it would be much more interesting for her to be a late game macro-intensive controler. One ability I came up with would let her lay eggs to farm camps while she is ganking and then go back to get the gold (like ivern) or use them as a trap (like shaco box)
SO MUCH POTENTIAL!
Ryze needs the aatrox treatment and just delet
Please do Aurelion Sol next, I actually thought about ideas about reworking him bc of this video
I think Riot knows how they are still keeping the game in meta. May be it's a strategy to keep people playing. I used to play R6S. It was so much fun in beta and meta, the more the fixed operators on the game it became less fun. I think broken champions = fun games. Also why would they care about the 1% challengers when they can make for money from millions of silvers.
I don't think that they gave up on him. Maybe the skin team just hasn't had any skin idea for him
Karma: am I a joke you?
All roads lead to Ryze rework
Definitely keen for this topic to become a series!
this video was reqlly good! i’d really like to see a video like that with aurelion sol, a lot of people, including me, seems to think that the only way to fix him is with a rework, your opinion on that interests me a lot
I know it maybe sound really stupid after almost 8-9 years of playing.
But I just now realized, and get to know from that video.
Ryze is want to be an AP ADC.
Which make me happy.
Because I love that play style. When Azir is came out I play him 0-24 hours untily hes nerfs.
And same happend with Aurelon Sol.
(They nerfs and changes killing them for me).
But after your video I try to play Ryze and give him a chanse, with that mind set.
(I can't even play with him, because I didn't understend the synergy waht he had).
Maybe later I'll write under that comment how successful was the try out.
i dont think ryze needs a lot of changes, current new items fixed a lot of ryze`s problems like spell vampirism. I also dont think he has a bad laning phase,similar to Viktor he has the capacity to bully the enemy with poke while putting the pressure on your opponent to do something to prevent your scaling,but is vulnerable to ganks and a single misstep can be a fatal difference. I believe it would be cool to make Ryze`s R like ezreal`s E that can be activated 3 times(like ahri but without the dash).
Old ryze is such a blast to play. Your opponent didn't get to move and you be laughing.
the latest version of ryze is actually broken despite being so fragile(because everything in league can one shot now)
just E Q you can deals huge aoe damage while needing you to hit only one skillshot
new E is actually overpowered
If you want more ideas for variety content, another thing you could do is something similar to Carbot's Itdbecoolif series for HotS. He took characters from the original games and theory-crafted his own kits for them. Maybe you can do that but with some established Runeterra characters (I.E Silco), or even some of the cancelled champions (I.E Omen)?
You've done plenty of design insights by now, I'd love to hear YOUR own design or somewhat similar to this, new concept, new ideas on how champions should be changed so on and so forth.
I personally want to see ryze's lore represented more in his gameplay. I think the current version is fine balance wise but for one of runeterras best mages if not the best it really only feels like he has 2 spells he can ever use with an occasional 2 others. I would love it if they would double down on the mystic arts aesthetic and allow him to choose between a vast array of abilitys. For example, lets say every time he is in base he can choose a mystic art from his spell book. One of say 6. To not over complicate him lets say they follow the same general rule. Q is a skillshot, w is cc, and e empowers his q and w. But each mystic art has different affects and you can change them based on the situation. Like path of fire could do aoe, a path of the void could slow and have heavier cc, path of the wind could grant him lower dps for higher move speed. I would love that and It would make him a more interesting udyr or qiyana variant. But it sounds like an overcomplicated balancing nightmare so I doubt they would ever do this. Just my dnd side coming out lol.
I feel his passive overload should be a stacks. At 10 (max) stacks, his abilites all gain bonuses (q bonus dmg, w roots, e spreads to multiple) but also costs more mana to use. He gains stacks by hitting abilities.
I just want adc's to be op again. Although i understand why they cant be. Its because adc players are too good at not dying while doing 0 damage so if we were op a true adc main would never loose.
Watch him land a job at Rito because of his idea
Riot gameplay team better take notes. Or to make it more simple, sign this guy.
New Ryze idea, make the most typical battlemage possible. If this means abandoning the machine gun fantasy, so be it. If it means abandoning combos and runes, so be it.
They weren't in his original kit.
I just want 2016-2019 Ryze back, he was perfect, I don't care if they have to nerf him to below 40% WR for pro play balance. I'm tired of being a stinky Yasuo main I wanna go back to Ryze but it's current form is boring af EQ EQ EQ EQ EQ EQ EQ
As a marksman main, I've never played him in my life so I have no idea if this would be better than the current one. Would be cool to see it tried in game though.
3:12 is Kass a burst mage? I expected him to be there
Also just finished the vid, quite confused lol can someone point me to a written version of this new rework’s abilities?
I need way more of these i really enjoy them keep up the great work!
Riot was just waiting for the community to be fed up and then people like vars makes a rework idea so then they can copy it
Don't encourage riot to hurt nocturne
Still waiting on a gnat video? Video 7
I won’t stop until I hear your opinions
You think too much, you should play more and talk less. The game needs more diversity not less
I want vars to create his own champion