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Fck PVE for PVP. Not cool. Bring back resil/pvp power
Was hyped to come back to shadowlands (i quit like 6month ago). From classic until early cata my main was a rogue which was my main. Seeing it at the bottom of the tier list makes me less motivated to go in again.
BUT THEN I HEARD WE GET PVP VENDORS, instantly had goosebumbs and knew i would fucking 24/7 bg's and then i saw STOOPZ video. Which made me think its just exactly like before. Useless dog shit for endless grind, like the fuck anyone cared about honor levels. (besides classic) And yeah im still not quite sure if i wanna check in for shadowlands or not. FUCK PVE boring stagnat shit with shitty guildmates / rnd mates which u are locked in couse u didnt have played prior expansions…
I really, really hate PvE gearing for PvP. It's honestly enough to turn me off the xpac. I'm fine with doing a raid for a cool trinket or an odd armour piece or something, but honestly if I have to do m+ or raid for my whole set or majority of it, I just won't be doing it. PvE content is really boring
Honestly im so disappointed that blizz somehow fucks up gearing through pvp once again. Its hard to not get cynical about it but goddamn how hard is it to at the fucking least not time gate it.
Don’t want to pve to pvp!
JUST INCREASE ILVL ON PVP VENDOR GEAR ….. CANT BE THAT FUCKING HARD
All those changes prove again that Blizzard only Balances around PvE.. its a shame and disgusting that they always ignore PvP..
buffing ww by 5% overall is just retarded regarding theyre being S tier already
Ferals being strong aswell 8% overall buff is just not acceptable..
Arms are tearing apart people burst wise and through constant pressure.. its not like the whole PvP state of prepatch is so burst heavy already.. which is not a bad thing dont understand me wrong you should be rewarded for bursting but thats just plain stupid.. why do these changes always apply in PvE aswell as PvP is mind boggling..
Ah and i forgot the gearing system 😀 its a joke sigh..
we all have to stick to farming M+ to get gear to compete in PvP.. otherwise you all are just plain and simply wasting your precious time guys
I hate pve. I just want to pvp and them to bring pvp vendors back and some pvp power or whatever they want. I don't care about pve….
I should be able to have "PvP alts" and "PvE alts" — I like playing hunter in dungeons, but paladin in arena and battlegrounds. If I never want to step foot in a dungeon as a paladin, I should not need to. That should be a valid choice.
Just bring resilience back on pvp gear, and pvp sets.
Can I refound sl? Not going pve 23/7 just to do 1h pvp
Really want to sink my teeth into PvP in Shadowlands. I just rolled a Shadow Priest they’re crushing it. May even mess around with a rogue too! I’ve got plenty on my plate with characters I’ve currently rolled. We’ll see how my DH and Spriest go along. Wish me luck and thank you for the videos!!
Pvp stat, it's so simple
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I hate having to pve for my gear. Back in the day when I had more time it might not be as bad but now that I am in my 30s I want to spend the little time I have on the game doing what I enjoy in the game. PvP gear needs set bonuses maybe even to the extent of the more pvp gear you have the more pvp talents you have. I am also a fan of pvp power/resilience. A guy that I play 3s with says gear should be gear… which is fine but let me get through the content I enjoy. the moment I get crushed in 3s and it is because some OP trinket i just don't want to play anymore.
Depends on how you define: grinding. I like that say… __ amount of honor will buy a mythic+3 gear, and it scales up to say… +10, and that's the cap. Past that you have to get your conquest gear. So it depends if its like the pearls from waterworld, then yeah. The grind is going to be dick. But if its a scalable grind and over the course of time you could gear either +10 mythics, or Bg's. Then I think it'll be good.
The fact that you have to pve to pvp is the most bizarre thing.
So it is set in stone? Will us PVPers be FORCED to do pve to gear up?
This game is a fucking joke. Nerfing enhancement when its already bottom of the barrel with no defensives, and the whole pvp gear debacle.
HATE pve period. BFA ruined pvp. It's such a disaster that I barely want to play the game anymore and blizzard doesn't listen. I don't know what to do. I am on the brink of giving the game up completely and as someone who has played since 2006 that is a hard thing to say.
Why can’t they just make the gear the exact same for pvp and pve? If you like to pvp you can get max item lvl from pvping. If you like pve you can get max item lvl from pveing. It’s not that difficult to figure out.
PvP and PvE should be completely separate.
If you don’t want to pve for pvp gear you may as well give up MMOs now, because that is every MMO at this point and WoW has BEEN taking ideas from other MMOs. Adapt or get over it
Feel like PVP is just a thing to do for "fun" now and they want to focus players on the game content but after running the same dungeons over and over its boring to me. They should have a specific gear rating for PVP gear that allows to to hit on players more effectively and PVE should have the same on NPC's.
Beep. Boop. Bop. Why. Do. You. Talk. Like. A. Robot. Every. Word. Sounds. Like. You. Just. Finished. A. Sentence.
Other than that very informative video, just hard to follow at times
After so many failed expansions and watching the development for about a month now i can only come to one conclusion: They still don't get it!
I already bought shadowlands but i'm thinking of not even playing it tbh. They will NEVER learn!
Hey guys! For my self i can only say im definetly NOT going to do PvE so i can enjoy PvP, BFA was waaaay enoughf for me in that matter. I seriously cannot understand the… cant say it with an other word IMBECILE decision by Blizzard end to make it like this. Seriously…. i have to farm M+ to gear up again?! So i can do PVP? Blizz learned nothing from the WORST expension ever made? I think its time for me to stop this nonsens. The decisions Blizzard made in the last fhew years i cannot support anymore. If Blizz dont change atlest this im not going to buy this nor any other expansions… LET US do proper gearing with PvP FOR PVP and not ofc with double time consuming like if we would do it with PvE. I was hopeing after Blizz made a pvp trinket set bonus so raiders and M+ dont have the upper hand in PVP , Blizz will bring back normal PvP gearing. It seems Blizz are off track again exspecialy since BFA in this matter… well now that i think of it actualy Blizz are off track with almost everything nowdays. I wish you good luck guys in SL! You will need it ^^
i like do pvp content to gear pvp, like old times with vendor !
i hate wow pve, i only play for arena…
they just need to bring back the old vendors