For today’s episode of Why NO ONE Plays, we’re gonna be talking about Varus: The Arrow of Retribution. Funnily enough, the thumbnail for this video was made for almost a full year ago LOL
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They should really push his state of AP Hypercarry where in the late game he can oneshot a 6 slot Ornn. That way he has to auto attack (or press R) in order to Apply his W stacks so he gotta have to stay closer to his enemies and not just press Q on CD.
Because they nerfed his burst build and dps adcs are irrelevant. Next question.
As an ap Caruso mid one-trick I really don’t think he is too weak, 1 shorting people with q+W is disgusting, especially when you only need 3 items to do so. But all the other builds are extremely neashe, and he would defo benefit from a mini rework that adjusts his dmg output.
varus is still op in WR
varus was one of my first adc mains. He plays more like a sniper then cait which is why hes so fun. Lets be honest if they do rework him everyone would much rather enjoy leathity Q snipe varus then auto like a monkey with passive varus. Plus if u want to be a machine gun just pick jinx she does the same thing but better
Here's my take:
Change his W so that all forms of damage he does applies his stacks.
Get rid of his ult, put his Q onto his R, his new Q being when pressed he pops all the stacks he has on all enemies, and they're slowed a % for each stack, or rooted if they had all 3.
Make his new R spammable, but it's charge time is reduced with attack speed, and make it a semi-global.
There you go. He'll be an on-hit champ that's centered around first rooting people after hitting them with a few autos, then finishing them with an ult he has to briefly charge while they can't move. No more long-range engagement from an ADC, but while still offering him a form of self-peel and/or lockdown, which also synergizes with his ult to be similar to how morg ult, bind, shield, and W all last in similar duration to eachother in a way that makes it very clear what her intended goals and combos are.
Varus is one of my favorite characters, but I rarely play him AD.
AP varus feels amazing to play, and is not as obnoxious or boring as the poke build. His kit functions more fluidly by working around blight stacks as your main source of damage. Early game is weak, but late game you can erase an enemy from existence even if they have high health/MR.
Runes are: Hail of Blades, taste of blood, eyeball collection and ultimate hunter. In percision take presence of mind, then coup de grace or cut down depending on the enemy team.
For the build I start D blade and work towards nashors then death cap, followed by situational items. If you're struggling in the early game you can go manamune first item, then opt into nashors and so fourth.
The build is super rewarding to play, allowing you to get picks and swing team fights through good ultimate usage and good attack weaving.
I had no idea that Blighted Quiver had an active ability till last year and I've been playing since before Quinn was released 🙁
I mean they should just rework him tbh, so what if he will be way different, you cant make everyone happy.
idk if it would be a good idea but I believe you could incentivise the usage of his abilities in attack speed / AP based builds by adding the same change that was made to Jinx´s W on his Q and E, and also maybe a Passive where if you proc his w passive at 3 stacks you get rewarded by the unit having 1 stack more, kind of like a Lux Ult and her passive. That would make his kit more cohesive without the need of a full on rework and would not be as punishing when you pick one build or the other without adding damage to his abilities.
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I play Varus with Runaan's and lifesteal and basically noobstomp the hell out of public matches as long as I have my ult up
Sivir is fun, has good skill ceiling with her Q and E because you can't rely on everything with your E, you gotta dodge too and with that ur passive and R help. It's a pentakill machine Ashe and Varus? not so much :/
I actually completely disagree with the majority of this video.
Having a champion with legit different playstyles in one is super unique. Kai'sa tries, but you pretty much play similarly between ap and ad. Varus has completely different playstyles within an AD build, as well as a nuke AP build and a DPS AP build.
Having essentially 4 different builds (Poke AD, dps crit, Nuke AP, dps AP). is pretty unique to varus and allows more experienced players to go the right route. It also means he pretty much always has a strong item buildpath.
The only downside I can see is that its pretty reliant on the strength of the items which could lead to just picking the strongest items for the buiildpath, but when you can pretty much build any damage item in the game Varus can find a way to shine.
I hope they dont rework this as marksman are already lame as fuck and they need more unique interesting stuff and less.
He got gutted the moment they nerfed his Q scalings from 150% ad all the time to like 115 or something scaling to 145 at level 9. Objectively not fun to play lmao, strong neutral game and ability to punish enemies for walking up when low is pretty fun. If you find it fun to poke and fun to engage. His problem is that his Q damage scale so badly now, it have become two divergent path. Back in the day I could build infinite edge first item and go into crit afterwards, and my Q would still deal decent and non-negliable damage. After lethality was introduced, his poke became too strong when playing that build, so they nerfed his scaling but also hit his other ad builds. AP varus deals more damge now, it scales much better, but the sustained damage is poor, and the playstyle and powerspikes is now that of a mage and not of a adc like it used to be. Weak early, decent mid game and strong late game. But he don't have the defensive tools of other mages, if he goes solo lane he will get dove if they have bruisers or assasains. Varus is a fun champion even though you don't like him, for some people at least. And I don't find Samira, Aphelios or Zeri or any other new modern champions fun really. Besides Varus, I only enjoy Xayah and Miss fortune bot lane. But that doesen't make other adcs not objectively fun.
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you only need 3 words to know why none plays varus:
hmmmm HE FUCKING SUCKS
I'm a Varus main and here is my opinion :
you based most of this video talking about lethality varus, and while as a varus main i sometimes play it, i agree that it's boring, it's basically not an adc, you just press Q and E often and that's it. it's like AD xerath but will less dmg and 2 damaging spells instead of 4. but varus has many more possible paths, mainly thanks to the fact that he has GREAT AP, AD and AS scaling.
Letha, as i just said, is an AD caster, and while he can do AA dmg because he's ad, it's not much because he has no attack speed. So this one is only spell and no AA, it doesnt use varus's full kit, and is overall the least liked for varus mains i think (because it causes the nerfs to all his other playstyles too)
On hit has a lot of attack speed but his Q and E do little dmg, you can still use Q and E often because of their base dmg + it procs your W marks for extra dmg, and since you AA a lot you get to apply marks. remember as well that detonating marks reduce your Q W and E cd, so you could spam it but… you only have the minimum Q dmg, because you lose dps if you charge it, and E cast time is too long, imo they should make it faster that would be a nice buff.
Next we have crit Varus, it allows you to make use of both the great AS scaling and the great AD scaling, though every varus that isnt lethality can't use Q for neutral game as effectively, but at least when you're fighting you can use most of his kit. lethal tempo for more AS scaling as with attack speed, but crit varus can also go PTA for insane burst dmg on 3AA + WQ and can win most lvl 2 fights bot if his Q connects. this seems to be the one using the most of his kit, but something is still missing : his great AP scaling.
Of course, hybrid, except for some exceptions like kaisa ap taking manamune for Q upgrade, isn't really viable anymore, so if you go ap varus you have to ignore your AD scalings.
but AP varus, while his Q and E are almost useless IF you don't apply W stacks before, is the build that makes all his kit usefull. and synergise together
Ap varus makes use of the passive because he needs AS to apply W, because without applying W you don't have dmg
He makes use of Q and E to detonate W and that's where most of his dmg come from
if you play correctly around the cooldown refund you have almost no downtime where you don't have Q and E if you don't miss your spells
his R becomes a super ultimate because of the AP ratio of 1 and the fact that it applies 3 W stacks and that can be lethal to even tanks late game.
I'm gonna post this comment in hopes that as a Varus Adc main, Someone in riot sees this. Please Rework my boy. I think he would be amazing in either play style. Please Focus him in one of the two directions, Option One – Make him the Big Bow Sniper . Focus on his Q and Ulti. Get Rid of his Passive, E, And W. Make him the ultimate Never to be seen Long range Arrow King. Option Two – Make him The berserker Archer. make him Fast beyond belief give him something like Kalista movement and Delete his Q and ulti Focus on his passive and his W make him the king of the more you stay in combat with me the faster i attack, if i get a kill you better run the attack speed spikes like crazy. AND ABOVE ALL ELSE. Rework his IN game PERSONALITY. HE doesnt talk or act anything like the other two Darkin that we have. Make it so that we the player can hear Kai and Valmar (the two men inside him) argue with Varus over each decision you make. One of the men is a peaceful soul so he would hate the idea of killing, The other Loves the art of war. Neither of these aspects are shown in game. Varus Just doesnt fit the Darkin Crazy we need.
One of the biggest misconception i see with varus is trying to min max his entire kit.
I climbed to diamond when poke varus was the meta, but instead of doing poke varus i was doing hypercarry varus with on hit build (king, bt, guinso and witends), the items revamp gimped this build, but it still works, why?
His kit can easily hold and win lane phase after level 3, his 6 is a huge spike, especially if your support is offensive or has good dmg, his midgame is incredible when u hit 2 items his endgame just get better with more dmg and survivability, all of that while being able to engange, pickoff or desingage with your ultimate.
Trust no consistent dmg carry will be able to kill you even jinx.
The only weakness is: longe range characters or bursty characters with invisibility or untargeable skills, if they dont kill you before you start hitting its over.
Probably cause they went woke for his storyline
I was main varus, but that ended when I deleted my Riot account, LoL is a great game the people playing it in my region, not so much, I lasted one year playing it, even my closest friends where mean to me, it didn't matter if we won or lost. It makes me a little sad to see the champion I was more attached to losing popularity and utility.
For one, I feel very called out here Vars for being a Katarina one trick lol
Second, I had an idea as to updating a new Varus. (I don't play Varus, and it's just a rough draft but-)
Q could double as DPS and a snipe, with something like;
Q Piercing Arrow
"Varus slows himself and readies his next arrow. It gains range and speed, dealing damage and slowing based on how long it's charged over 3 seconds.
Minimum 40 – 115 (+15% bonus AD)
Maximum 100 – 325 (+ 100% bonus AD) physical damage
Slow 7% – 20% for 0.65 seconds based on charge
Cooldown 22 – 12 seconds
Additionally, releasing Q early will refund a portion of the cooldown, up to 65% for a tap fire.
W Blighted Quiver
attacks and abilities apply stacks passivly, each causing the next auto attack to deal 0.5, 1, 2, 3.5, max 5.5% missing HP (+15% AP) magic damage.
Active: Consume stacks on one visible target, dealing 2, 4, 6, 8, 10% missing HP magic damage. Additionally, If the cast kills a champion Varus heals 2% missing HP for each stack consumed on the target up to 20%
Cooldown 16 – 11 seconds
E Hail of Arrows (mostly unchanged)
Varus shoots a volly of arrows at a target area, dealing damage, slowing and applying grevious wounds.
Damage 60 – 220 (+ 70% bonus AD) physical damage
Grevious wounds 20% – 60%
Cooldown 18 – 10.seconds
R Double B Thing
Varus reaches out to Aatrox and b**ch slaps him twice, after that your auto attacks become Jhin ulties idk lol.
Now in retrospect after putting the work in to complete this I'm glad balance team is not my job lol
I think they should either rework his passive and make it more conducive to his neutral god/poke playstyle(less interesting to play maybe but at least its unique) or just commit to making him fully ap or ad.
just give him a real freaking identity is the best thing i can think of. Give him an distinctive playstyle and/or some gimmick to his kit then he'll be good.
I am having great success as a varus otp, I have 3 builds I go for depending on the enemy team, ap for tanks, ad for assassins and squishies and standard for a more tf depended game, the variety is what keeps me playing him.
Varys needs to be focused around his q he’s the only true snipe of league
So basically… hes a marksman trying to be a mage, the same way azir is a mage trying to be a marksman… so logically that explains why his mid lane is alright, but his autos then feel neglected, which is wasteful on a marksman, so ideally we just accept that this is a demon duel wielding gay dudes who are too gay to control and all logic is out the window now…
Time to play him support.
Jokes on you I play ap varud
So.. play Varus support. Got it
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I disagree.
Varus is good because the kit compliments itself depending on your playstyle.
Playing ad? the %hp damage is a nice addition AND incentive to meld your abilities into your fighting style.
Playing AD? R+ W/Q. AA+E
The design of this champ is REALLY good. You can play two totally different styles (3 actually with on hit).
Few champs have that kind of diversity.
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I play varus. Sometimes.
Was the old item Deathfire Grasp? that would allow him to one shot people with AP build?
Either way he's one of my favorite Marksman as he's one of the few that has Hard CC to get out of a bad situation.
Varus is Vars without U. I think Vars is implying that he is still single and he needs a partner or a romantic relationship.
A fix for varus would be to give him two stances where one is good for close range and the other for long range
I usually pick varus top lane and i have to say it's pretty broken as long as you build ap, im bronze myself so i don't know if it's just that im low elo but i usually win lane and end up with 20 to 30 kills per game.
Varus is my favorite champion, and probably the only champion that I know exactly how much damage I am going to deal and if they will die or not.
You said it, his kit is "halved" and has very poor synergy with each other if you specialize the other. And some idiot in reddit or wiki would argue that it would prevent enemies building just all armor, then what about draven, darius and riven?
Sad. his only place nowadays is in URF now.
I feel like if Varus was reworked he should be reworked around his Q, not his autos since that's one of his most fun and defining abilities. His main dmg coming from Q instead of autoattacks is the reason I recently learned to really enjoy playing him. Also his AP build is hilarious.
If Varus ever gets reworked, maybe Riot will finally remember the update his voicelines in game to reflect the new lore… that he got like 4 years ago at this point 🙃